Homosexuality
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Great post :celebrate:
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grandevou:
... What I was trying to get at is that mutual respect is important. ....
You listed mutual respect as one of the items to be provided by parents. Why?
Mutual respect comes naturally when both parties earn each other's respect.
This applies to everyone, not just between parents and children. -
dunnoleh:
Think there is truth to what grandevou is saying. Children learn from parents. Parents must first show a child what is respect for the child to be able to reciprocate. It all starts with the parents.grandevou:
... What I was trying to get at is that mutual respect is important. ....
You listed mutual respect as one of the items to be provided by parents. Why?
Mutual respect comes naturally when both parties earn each other's respect.
This applies to everyone, not just between parents and children. -
Funz:
... Parents must first show a child what is respect for the child to be able to reciprocate. It all starts with the parents.
Agree that parents must show a child what is respect.
It is a parent's duty to teach a child.
And the best way to teach is for parents to show respect towards grandparents, ..... right?
However, a child must still earn his or her respect from parents.
Mutual respect cannot take place unilaterally. -
:offtopic: liao
But I am of a different school of thoughts.
I feel that respect should be accorded at the beginning. However, respect can be lost if the person is not mindful of their conduct and behaviour.
I don't believe that respect has to be earned from the very start. -
hahaha...theory ok lah...if u look at the 'in-law problems' thread, u'll see people with all kind of pattern
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dunnoleh:
Wouldn't it be ridiculous though if a parent expects a child to treat him/her with respect if they don't respect the child?Funz:
... Parents must first show a child what is respect for the child to be able to reciprocate. It all starts with the parents.
Agree that parents must show a child what is respect.
It is a parent's duty to teach a child.
And the best way to teach is for parents to show respect towards grandparents, ..... right?
However, a child must still earn his or her respect from parents.
Mutual respect cannot take place unilaterally.
Why should a child need to gain respect of his parents any more than his parents to him? If anything, it should be the parents acting first.
As with manners, with knowledge and basic cognitive and physical skills, the parents need to pave the way.
Haha and yes :offtopic:
Let me try:
On the topic of respect, there is this beautiful Gandhi quote I love:
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
Just because there are some gay people who are promiscuous, that doesn't mean that they all are. I happen to have met a lovely gay couple with their children when I went to Disneyland few years back in LA. They've been together for over a decade. And it's quite sad that they can't get married, while a straight couple who just hooked up in Vegas can. -
grandevou:
... Why should a child need to gain respect of his parents any more than his parents to him? If anything, it should be the parents acting first. ...
somehow, I felt this was your position while reading your first post.
my feelings were correct; we are from different \"worlds\".
I was brought up in a vastly different manner.
The mentioned of \"Gratitude\" in my reply to your post is one big difference between our worlds.
cheers! -
As much as I see homosexuality as a sin, this sin is no different than my sin of bitterness or hatred. I have to say that as Christians, we are to show love, compassion, and mercy to those who are struggling with the same gender desires. At the same time, God has called us to repent of our sins. If we have died with Christ, then we are new creations. Do we continue to live in our sin so that grace may continue to increase?
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my thinking is very kampung. Ah son can be anything in life, except he cannot be gay.
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