All About Full-Time Maids

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raynreg:

Does it work if we throw a question to the helper that whatever that is not declared would be considered as stealing from us

Good in theory but in practice how to enforce? You may regard as stealing, but our mata will probably look you in the eye and say domestic matter. Then how?

[cool_hi]

Hi catang,

I remember my agency told me such case, employer only liable for food & lodging ONLY up to 21 days…if by 21days, maid can’t get other employer to employ her, then agency will send her back…as for loan, I remember agency said will refund leh…

I have never heard of 30 days…not sure whether rules haf changed, but I got my current maid last dec…so don’t think such rules will change so fast…I suggest u call up other agency to pretend to be potential employer & check with them on such details??

Just a suggestion…coz some agencies tend to ‘con’ employers who are not familiar with such things & try to get the MAX out of employers…
The preious time my indo maid caught with stealing $$, I sent her back,still have to pay for her air tix back…I remember was ard $300…but later, I found out that air tix to indo is NOT SO EX!!! & I was advised by friends, that should ask agency to show me the issue of air tix with the maid’s name, to make sure they really did buy air tix for the maid, coz some agency may still keep them here to change employer…

[raynreg]

In that case, i assume our mata wil oni act based on evidence which is either its recorded on CCTV or by confession (which i dun think will ever happen). So in any event, its a domestic case. But at least you get to "assess" if those extra things are hers or yours and therefore decide if you want to keep or send her home.


Else its like her words against yours if she did not fully declare what she has on her.

[catang]

catang:

i give post dated cheque for her loan. she's only with me 1 mth plus. so even if i send her back, i can just cancel the balance chq but signed on the contract to give agency a mth for the maid to be transferred out.


guess i have no choice but to be prepared to pay for $15 x 30days, but i won't sign another form for dat ;(

shld i still give her the monies back which she under-declare to me?? from $2.80 becomes $95.40 which is a huge diff and it's new notes. some are from red packets but only few relatives gave so she couldnt have so much and my relatives are very ngiow they wont give more den $4 to maid (ma checked with them the next day). my gals' red packets tally except for my boy so we concluded she pocketed it and when i asked her for it, she was opening them halfway and den tell me she had \"forgotten\" to tell me abt her pocket $ from previous employer. i m asking this qn cos thou we knew very well she pocketed the monies, we dun have proof that caught her in the act of exactly how much was stolen.

talk abt the agent, if they believed maid, they would have helped the maid to ask me back for the $$ but they didnt. cos i sent her back immediately when ma found even more $$ after searching her stuff, she still insist it's hers cos she didnt check her belongings thoroughly. agent just said \"oh ok lor send her back to us.\"

how how how??

current maid work permit is issued but haven go for thumb print. it can only be done after the previous is transferred out to another employer or i cancel her work permit but dun tink so else i need forfeit my balance paid in posted dated chq. if i cancel the chq the wont be able to bank it but will they sued me for it?

[catang]

LKVM:

catang:

current maid work permit is issued but haven go for thumb print. it can only be done after the previous is transferred out to another employer or i cancel her work permit but dun tink so else i need forfeit my balance paid in posted dated chq. if i cancel the chq the wont be able to bank it but will they sued me for it?

How can they sue you for the cheques... u didnt keep the maid right... for the new one do u also have to pay? can u make those cheques work agains this new maid? I think u basically dont take this agency next time havent heard about the things they are doing before.. specially for lodging for 30 days

i took from another agency and cos of their service and attitude on handling my case, i rather fore go the free replacement. i gave posted dated chq for the maid's loan so maid still have outstanding with them and i was saying if i just cancel her work permit myself, i will call the bank to stop the balance post dated chq as well but will the agency sue me for it as it is stated in the contract to give the maid one mth's period to look for another employer. as with previous other agencies, understood need to pay for the food and lodging ranges from $10 to $20 depending on agency, and they will settle everything after maid is transferred out. BUT this one wants me to sign a separate form and it is written in ink \"i will pay for the maid's food and lodging for $15 x 30 days\". I asked the agent, she said, \"oh will refund the balance to u if it's less den 30 days\"

[jtoh]

catang:

LKVM:

[quote=\"catang\"]current maid work permit is issued but haven go for thumb print. it can only be done after the previous is transferred out to another employer or i cancel her work permit but dun tink so else i need forfeit my balance paid in posted dated chq. if i cancel the chq the wont be able to bank it but will they sued me for it?

How can they sue you for the cheques... u didnt keep the maid right... for the new one do u also have to pay? can u make those cheques work agains this new maid? I think u basically dont take this agency next time havent heard about the things they are doing before.. specially for lodging for 30 days

i took from another agency and cos of their service and attitude on handling my case, i rather fore go the free replacement. i gave posted dated chq for the maid's loan so maid still have outstanding with them and i was saying if i just cancel her work permit myself, i will call the bank to stop the balance post dated chq as well but will the agency sue me for it as it is stated in the contract to give the maid one mth's period to look for another employer. as with previous other agencies, understood need to pay for the food and lodging ranges from $10 to $20 depending on agency, and they will settle everything after maid is transferred out. BUT this one wants me to sign a separate form and it is written in ink \"i will pay for the maid's food and lodging for $15 x 30 days\". I asked the agent, she said, \"oh will refund the balance to u if it's less den 30 days\"[/quote]Then they should put in the line that they will refund balance if it's less than 30 days.

[hquek]

:? can ask them to show proof that maid was introduced to potential employers? Else will agency be eager to 'promote' the maid?


In any case, I agree, you should tell the agency to put in writing that if less than 30 days, you should get a refund based on what formula.

If it comes to sending her home, see if you can arrange flight for her. My ex-maids were indo - the most I paid for airticket was $180 (and that was due to that volcano smoke thingy.....so had to go to another airport). Else I had paid like less than $100 even with baggage.

[catang]

jtoh:

catang:

[quote=\"LKVM\"]
How can they sue you for the cheques... u didnt keep the maid right... for the new one do u also have to pay? can u make those cheques work agains this new maid? I think u basically dont take this agency next time havent heard about the things they are doing before.. specially for lodging for 30 days

i took from another agency and cos of their service and attitude on handling my case, i rather fore go the free replacement. i gave posted dated chq for the maid's loan so maid still have outstanding with them and i was saying if i just cancel her work permit myself, i will call the bank to stop the balance post dated chq as well but will the agency sue me for it as it is stated in the contract to give the maid one mth's period to look for another employer. as with previous other agencies, understood need to pay for the food and lodging ranges from $10 to $20 depending on agency, and they will settle everything after maid is transferred out. BUT this one wants me to sign a separate form and it is written in ink \"i will pay for the maid's food and lodging for $15 x 30 days\". I asked the agent, she said, \"oh will refund the balance to u if it's less den 30 days\"

Then they should put in the line that they will refund balance if it's less than 30 days.[/quote]Precisely but agent says they dun do dat and which is y till now i haven sign it

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catang:

Precisely but agent says they dun do dat and which is y till now i haven sign it

Call MOM and tell them; and what's that agency body? And let your agent know you are spreading the good news. I would think that if you going places with your queries and comments, they may give in a bit.

I really don't see why they must make you sign for 30 days; and then only verbally tell you there may be refund at the end of it.

Come to the end of it, I will put that liner in the agreement and then sign...with their signature affixed, they also cannot run. Verbal holds no grounds - black and white is king.

[gumiho]

catang:

LKVM:

[quote=\"catang\"]current maid work permit is issued but haven go for thumb print. it can only be done after the previous is transferred out to another employer or i cancel her work permit but dun tink so else i need forfeit my balance paid in posted dated chq. if i cancel the chq the wont be able to bank it but will they sued me for it?

How can they sue you for the cheques... u didnt keep the maid right... for the new one do u also have to pay? can u make those cheques work agains this new maid? I think u basically dont take this agency next time havent heard about the things they are doing before.. specially for lodging for 30 days

i took from another agency and cos of their service and attitude on handling my case, i rather fore go the free replacement. i gave posted dated chq for the maid's loan so maid still have outstanding with them and i was saying if i just cancel her work permit myself, i will call the bank to stop the balance post dated chq as well but will the agency sue me for it as it is stated in the contract to give the maid one mth's period to look for another employer. as with previous other agencies, understood need to pay for the food and lodging ranges from $10 to $20 depending on agency, and they will settle everything after maid is transferred out. BUT this one wants me to sign a separate form and it is written in ink \"i will pay for the maid's food and lodging for $15 x 30 days\". I asked the agent, she said, \"oh will refund the balance to u if it's less den 30 days\"[/quote]We returned our previous maid (with us for 3 days) who was seriously homesick to the maid agency and they also told us to pay for her food & lodging fee however we refuse. We have the right to say \"NO\" because of their lousy service. This maid agency was giving us a headache. No transfer maid. New maid took around 3 weeks to reach Singapore after she reached Singapore then found out that she was pregnant. We needed a helper badly yet they kept us waiting and waiting. My husband was fuming mad, he scolded the PIC almost everyday. In the end, they gave us a FULL Refund (except the Insurance Fee - prorated).

According to our helper, when she first arrived in Singapore she resided at the Owner (Maid Agency) house and her everyday meal was noodle. The maid agency had better ensure that they give the helper a proper meal for the $15.00

Fight for your right. We may not be always under Maid Agency's mercy.

When there a will, there a way. Good Luck !