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    Is it possible for a P1 student to reach piano grade 8?

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    • M Offline
      MummyThreeStreams
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      Wouldn’t finger span and height be an issue, though? My DS1, who is in P1, has difficulty playing notes an octave apart coz his fingers are not long enough. Also, when he has to play the pedal, he is half sitting and half standing to reach the pedal.

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        phankao
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        MummyThreeStreams:
        Wouldn't finger span and height be an issue, though? My DS1, who is in P1, has difficulty playing notes an octave apart coz his fingers are not long enough. Also, when he has to play the pedal, he is half sitting and half standing to reach the pedal.

        For the very young, they usually skip certain notes bc of that finger-span. The teacher will know what to do and what is allowable.

        Not sure about the pedal, but that 6yo in the video is using a stool with pedal lifted!

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          corneyAmber
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          In Singapore, I have seen many many big-size 6YOs. To me, kids being tall and big size these days are a norm, small is more the unusual. 😉

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            phankao
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            ksi:
            In Singapore, I have seen many many big-size 6YOs. To me, kids being tall and big size these days are a norm, small is more the unusual. 😉

            Maybe just the ones you see. I have one 6yo who was only 103metre tall. Now at almost 12yo, he's just 1.29m tall. Lucky he's not doing piano.

            Furthermore, since we are talking about piano, have to see their hand-size. I think no matter how big-sized, the 6yo cannot be compared to a 14 or 15year old in hand-size, the size where more can play the grade 8 pieces more comfortably in the stretch of their fingers, without compromising on the notes as written on the score.

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              sleepy
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              phankao:
              fristrom:

              For grade 8 practical, I think one has to pass grade 5 theory. IMHO, it is tougher for a 6 years old to pass grade 5 theory, then probably passing the grade 8 practical.


              Can take Trinity exams grade 8. No need theory. In fact, can go straight to ATCL diploma with no need for Gr 8 exam!


              Is Trinity equally recognised as ABRSM?
              Trinity's requirements seem less stringent compared to ABRSM

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                MMM
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                Could the child be from China??? I ever heard from my China colleague that their 7 year old would be at least grade 5 etc… but not sure if we are talking about the same examination body???

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                  jce
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                  Trinity is not as widely known as ABRSM. As for standard, ABRSM examiners are known to be more stringent but they do vary especially if you compare the ones they send overseas and the ones who examine locally in UK. The pieces are more or less the same in terms of standard, it really depends on what pieces you choose. Trinity tends to be more "experimental" with less "main stream" at times.

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                    Dreamaurora
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                    jce:
                    Trinity is not as widely known as ABRSM. As for standard, ABRSM examiners are known to be more stringent but they do vary especially if you compare the ones they send overseas and the ones who examine locally in UK. The pieces are more or less the same in terms of standard, it really depends on what pieces you choose. Trinity tends to be more \"experimental\" with less \"main stream\" at times.

                    To add, there are also 'less' things to prepare in Trinity graded exams. The scale component for example is significantly less heavy than ABRSM's. For grade 1-5 Trinity sight reading is optional hence some teachers prefer Trinity for the lower grades. Even for the diplomas, the Trinity are perceived as the lesser ones. Trinity performance diplomas do not have sight reading and viva component and hence are very popular choices among students here for post grade 8 certs.

                    Anyway speaking of countries in Asia such as China, Korea, Japan; parents there are very well known to be very obssessed with grades and whose kids can achieve them faster. To be honest, musical talent is a very arbitrary thing and exams are one way to sort of quantifying them. But do note that speed of learning piano is not indicative of musical potential of a student. I have seen students who possess very formidable technique and can learn notes extremely fast but totally soulless in their learning and the opposite is true. At the end of the day, the most important thing is the student must make good music.

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                      Funx3
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                      markfch:
                      Was told by ds that someone in his P1 cohort has attained/or is going for grade 8 piano practical exams. I was very surprise to hear this as that is extremely fast progress imo.


                      Is this a common phenomenon?
                      Hi Bro Mark,
                      My Gal just told me,
                      Her Classmate says got Grade 8 in P1 ....
                      same-same sch as your ds -le ....
                      Sch Really got many Crouching Tigers, Hidden Dragons -le ....
                      Hee-Hee ....
                      😉 😉

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                        peanut_butter
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                        Dreamaurora:
                        To add, there are also 'less' things to prepare in Trinity graded exams. The scale component for example is significantly less heavy than ABRSM's. For grade 1-5 Trinity sight reading is optional hence some teachers prefer Trinity for the lower grades. Even for the diplomas, the Trinity are perceived as the lesser ones. Trinity performance diplomas do not have sight reading and viva component and hence are very popular choices among students here for post grade 8 certs.

                        Another bonus point: Their examinations fall on Nov-Dec.

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