Post GE 2011 Discussion
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verykiasu2010:
Actually, from what I heard from friends who have volunteered, it depends on the MPs. Some MPs are very hands-on, while some are less. The former are the ones whom we would call good grassroot MPs. Unforunately, only the residents in that constituency would know if their MP is a good grassroot MP or not. Thus it was quite disturbing to me when pre-GE, there were certain forum discussion whether this MP is good or bad depending on what issue he has brought up in parliament. For eg, one said never recall this MP doing anything in parliament; then another said that he was good, brought up this issue or that issue; then yet another one said so what, what difference had he made even if he brought up those issues. See, everyone in that forum totally ignored what the MP may have done at the constituency level... sorry for this, but I just need to rant.
usually the assistants (Read : volunteer, no pay type) will hear your story, write the \"case notes\" or draft the letter. if the MP agrees, the MP will sign off and send out directly. end of storyjessicawongcs:
In her Meet-the-MP-session, i dont believe she goes through all the cases that night. She has assistant to help her. The news only shows she is alone in a room while people go in and talk to her and this picture the image to everyone that she went through each and every case, which i really doubt. I had went to meet-the-MP-session before which was just last yr. i, and many people, dont even get to see the MP, there are tables with volunteers and helpers which are there to see us, not the MP who see us.
I might be biased towards her, but well no one is perfect to satisfy everyone
MP absent also can. grassroot does all the work
Bottomline is, MP is also a human. Even for a hands-on MP, you can't expect him to be not sick, or not have business travel or reservist or holiday plan with family at times. Could it be that when you went to MPS, it happened to be one of those days when the MP was out of town? Do people think of that possibility instead of being so quick to judge? Sorry, I wasn't referring to either Jessica or verykiasu2010, but there were some posts that seem to imply that. -
insider:
Full interview:I recall back what Mr Ngiam Tong Dow had said in his Y2003 interview. He has the foresight that I wonder what PAP has in mind that didn't go along this line to ensure that we are not being overly dependent on MNCs that may have created into this situation now.
A social problem usually takes years to surface into a bigger issue, that sometimes still can be solved by taking a few more years but sometimes will be rooted here for many to suffer (eg casinos).
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Q. What is your biggest worry about the civil service?
A. The greatest danger is we are flying on auto-pilot. What was once a great policy, we just carry on with more of the same, until reality intervenes. Take our industrial policy. At the beginning, it was the right thing for us to attract multinationals to Singapore. For some years now, I've been trying to tell everybody: 'Look, for God's sake, grow our own timber.' If we really want knowledge to be rooted in Singaporeans and based in Singapore, we have to support our SMEs. I'm not a supporter of SMEs just for the sake of more SMEs, but we must grow our own roots. Creative Technology's Sim Wong Hoo is one and Hyflux's Olivia Lum is another but that's too few. We have been flying on auto-pilot for too long. The MNCs have contributed a lot to Singapore but they are totally unsentimental people. The moment you're uncompetitive, they just relocate.
http://philochristus.blogspot.com/2006/05/interview-with-mr-ngiam-tong-dow.html[/quote]A very good reminder. -
concern2:
Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1 -
concern2:
A very good reminder.[/quote]we seem to grow the timber on other's land
Full interview:insider:
I recall back what Mr Ngiam Tong Dow had said in his Y2003 interview. He has the foresight that I wonder what PAP has in mind that didn't go along this line to ensure that we are not being overly dependent on MNCs that may have created into this situation now.
A social problem usually takes years to surface into a bigger issue, that sometimes still can be solved by taking a few more years but sometimes will be rooted here for many to suffer (eg casinos).
[quote]
Q. What is your biggest worry about the civil service?
A. The greatest danger is we are flying on auto-pilot. What was once a great policy, we just carry on with more of the same, until reality intervenes. Take our industrial policy. At the beginning, it was the right thing for us to attract multinationals to Singapore. For some years now, I've been trying to tell everybody: 'Look, for God's sake, grow our own timber.' If we really want knowledge to be rooted in Singaporeans and based in Singapore, we have to support our SMEs. I'm not a supporter of SMEs just for the sake of more SMEs, but we must grow our own roots. Creative Technology's Sim Wong Hoo is one and Hyflux's Olivia Lum is another but that's too few. We have been flying on auto-pilot for too long. The MNCs have contributed a lot to Singapore but they are totally unsentimental people. The moment you're uncompetitive, they just relocate.
http://philochristus.blogspot.com/2006/05/interview-with-mr-ngiam-tong-dow.html -
Busymom:
the problem is we don't eat sashimi or bento or sushi day in day out
Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:concern2:
Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1 -
Busymom:
Actually, from what I heard from friends who have volunteered, it depends on the MPs. Some MPs are very hands-on, while some are less. The former are the ones whom we would call good grassroot MPs. Unforunately, only the residents in that constituency would know if their MP is a good grassroot MP or not. Thus it was quite disturbing to me when pre-GE, there were certain forum discussion whether this MP is good or bad depending on what issue he has brought up in parliament. For eg, one said never recall this MP doing anything in parliament; then another said that he was good, brought up this issue or that issue; then yet another one said so what, what difference had he made even if he brought up those issues. See, everyone in that forum totally ignored what the MP may have done at the constituency level... sorry for this, but I just need to rant.
usually the assistants (Read : volunteer, no pay type) will hear your story, write the \"case notes\" or draft the letter. if the MP agrees, the MP will sign off and send out directly. end of storyverykiasu2010:
[quote=\"jessicawongcs\"]
In her Meet-the-MP-session, i dont believe she goes through all the cases that night. She has assistant to help her. The news only shows she is alone in a room while people go in and talk to her and this picture the image to everyone that she went through each and every case, which i really doubt. I had went to meet-the-MP-session before which was just last yr. i, and many people, dont even get to see the MP, there are tables with volunteers and helpers which are there to see us, not the MP who see us.
I might be biased towards her, but well no one is perfect to satisfy everyone
MP absent also can. grassroot does all the work
Bottomline is, MP is also a human. Even for a hands-on MP, you can't expect him to be not sick, or not have business travel or reservist or holiday plan with family at times. Could it be that when you went to MPS, it happened to be one of those days when the MP was out of town? Do people think of that possibility instead of being so quick to judge? Sorry, I wasn't referring to either Jessica or verykiasu2010, but there were some posts that seem to imply that.[/quote]
Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong.. -
verykiasu2010:
the problem is we don't eat sashimi or bento or sushi day in day out[/quote]Ya loh, must be creative in coming up with alternatives instead of asking for heads to roll. :idea:
Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:Busymom:
[quote=\"concern2\"]Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1 -
concern2:
I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.
Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong.. -
raysusan:
The author seems to got it all wrong..Open letter to Mr. Lee Hsien Loong
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/open_letter_to_pm/
What he/she suggest, althou is good for SG, will never be implemented or accepted.. I believe..
For those who is interested, can read some of the online discussions.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3232852
It should be quite insightful.. -
Culture shock is usually experienced when one moves to another country (a different place), or as in the case of reverse culture shock, when one comes home and faces new challenges. Yet in Singapore, we aren’t moving anywhere, still in Singapore, but our culture is changing in an indescribable manner. So what kind of culture shock can this be called?
Only those living in towers do not feel it, and think nothing of it. They are shielded from it all.
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