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      Busymom
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      concern2:
      Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:


      http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1
      Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:

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        concern2:
        insider:

        I recall back what Mr Ngiam Tong Dow had said in his Y2003 interview. He has the foresight that I wonder what PAP has in mind that didn't go along this line to ensure that we are not being overly dependent on MNCs that may have created into this situation now.


        A social problem usually takes years to surface into a bigger issue, that sometimes still can be solved by taking a few more years but sometimes will be rooted here for many to suffer (eg casinos).
        [quote]
        Q. What is your biggest worry about the civil service?

        A. The greatest danger is we are flying on auto-pilot. What was once a great policy, we just carry on with more of the same, until reality intervenes. Take our industrial policy. At the beginning, it was the right thing for us to attract multinationals to Singapore. For some years now, I've been trying to tell everybody: 'Look, for God's sake, grow our own timber.' If we really want knowledge to be rooted in Singaporeans and based in Singapore, we have to support our SMEs. I'm not a supporter of SMEs just for the sake of more SMEs, but we must grow our own roots. Creative Technology's Sim Wong Hoo is one and Hyflux's Olivia Lum is another but that's too few. We have been flying on auto-pilot for too long. The MNCs have contributed a lot to Singapore but they are totally unsentimental people. The moment you're uncompetitive, they just relocate.

        Full interview:
        http://philochristus.blogspot.com/2006/05/interview-with-mr-ngiam-tong-dow.html

        A very good reminder.[/quote]we seem to grow the timber on other's land

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          Busymom:
          concern2:

          Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:


          http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1

          Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:

          the problem is we don't eat sashimi or bento or sushi day in day out

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            Busymom:
            verykiasu2010:

            [quote=\"jessicawongcs\"]

            In her Meet-the-MP-session, i dont believe she goes through all the cases that night. She has assistant to help her. The news only shows she is alone in a room while people go in and talk to her and this picture the image to everyone that she went through each and every case, which i really doubt. I had went to meet-the-MP-session before which was just last yr. i, and many people, dont even get to see the MP, there are tables with volunteers and helpers which are there to see us, not the MP who see us.

            I might be biased towards her, but well no one is perfect to satisfy everyone

            usually the assistants (Read : volunteer, no pay type) will hear your story, write the \"case notes\" or draft the letter. if the MP agrees, the MP will sign off and send out directly. end of story

            MP absent also can. grassroot does all the work

            Actually, from what I heard from friends who have volunteered, it depends on the MPs. Some MPs are very hands-on, while some are less. The former are the ones whom we would call good grassroot MPs. Unforunately, only the residents in that constituency would know if their MP is a good grassroot MP or not. Thus it was quite disturbing to me when pre-GE, there were certain forum discussion whether this MP is good or bad depending on what issue he has brought up in parliament. For eg, one said never recall this MP doing anything in parliament; then another said that he was good, brought up this issue or that issue; then yet another one said so what, what difference had he made even if he brought up those issues. See, everyone in that forum totally ignored what the MP may have done at the constituency level... sorry for this, but I just need to rant.

            Bottomline is, MP is also a human. Even for a hands-on MP, you can't expect him to be not sick, or not have business travel or reservist or holiday plan with family at times. Could it be that when you went to MPS, it happened to be one of those days when the MP was out of town? Do people think of that possibility instead of being so quick to judge? Sorry, I wasn't referring to either Jessica or verykiasu2010, but there were some posts that seem to imply that.[/quote]
            Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..

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              verykiasu2010:
              Busymom:

              [quote=\"concern2\"]Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:


              http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1

              Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:

              the problem is we don't eat sashimi or bento or sushi day in day out[/quote]Ya loh, must be creative in coming up with alternatives instead of asking for heads to roll. :idea:

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                Busymom
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                concern2:


                Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..
                I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.

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                  raysusan:
                  Open letter to Mr. Lee Hsien Loong

                  http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/open_letter_to_pm/
                  The author seems to got it all wrong..

                  What he/she suggest, althou is good for SG, will never be implemented or accepted.. I believe..

                  For those who is interested, can read some of the online discussions.

                  http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3232852

                  It should be quite insightful..

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                    Culture shock is usually experienced when one moves to another country (a different place), or as in the case of reverse culture shock, when one comes home and faces new challenges. Yet in Singapore, we aren’t moving anywhere, still in Singapore, but our culture is changing in an indescribable manner. So what kind of culture shock can this be called?


                    Only those living in towers do not feel it, and think nothing of it. They are shielded from it all.

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                      3Boys:
                      Funz:

                      [quote=\"ChiefKiasu\"]Funz, thank you for your contributions so far. You are telling the other side of the story, the reason why Singaporean employers need to hire foreign workers to run their operations. This is something that often gets lost in the debate against FTs. And it IS different coming from a real employer like yourself, than from the government trying to explain its policies.


                      Thank you Chief.

                      I find it scary that people only see one side of things. When in actual fact, it is multi faceted and any change to a single aspect affects the rest.

                      This thing about foreign workers is one of those. People only see competition from them but in truth, yes they may compete on some level but on many levels they compliment. And it is naive the demand that we only want the part that compliments but don't want the competition.

                      People cheered when WP won Aljunied GRC, the fact that GY will be gone if he lost was talked about from the beginning but people consoled themselves that it's ok, he will be ok. And when it really happened, petition to reinstate him? And when the Govt does not, talks about conspiracy to oust GY surfaces, etc. OK don't shoot me, I have nothing against the outcome of this election. I am just using this to illustrate that the result does not end with just WP winning and getting an alternative voice with all good things still remaining status quo. Oft times, there is a price to be paid we must then look really hard and ask ourselves if we are prepared to pay that price.

                      Ok said too much oredi. Gonna zip up before I step some bombs.

                      I completely agree with you. Thanks for clearing the landmines πŸ˜‰[/quote]I want to say thank you too... it is very tiring. πŸ˜‰

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                        concern2
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                        Busymom:
                        concern2:



                        Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..

                        I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.


                        So if they are paid to do the job, wouldn't it be their responsibility to be there most of the time?

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