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markfch:

DS problem is not really this. He understands the rule that if both hanzi are 第三声, the first on must be written as 第二声

Don't want to confuse you further but do you mean 'read as' 第二声, not written as? The first char should still be indicated with its rightful sound which is 第三声.

[Jennifer]

markfch:

Tonight I resolve to put on my 'smiling' face, and politely work with ds on this again.


If I still make no headway, then career-minded or not, I'll insist that dw step in and do this coaching job as she's much better in chinese. Can't stand it if ds were to carry this problem into P2.

I think HYPY is not very impt. Only tested up to P3. After P3, no longer see HYPY qns. By then, I am sure most kids hv heard enough to know the proper pronounciation. Think no worth to sweat over this.

Your boy is good at recognising whole character, this is more crucial. Spend the precious time learning more characters rather than get stuck with this HYPY.

But if you really insist on perfecting HYPY, perhaps buy a CL dictionary. Flip to any 第二声 / 第三声 pages and read aloud the character's HYPY from its base to its right tone. Daily drilling for 5 to 10 mins shld help differentiate the tones. At the same time, learn more character. Kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

By the way, how's the sch CL teacher teach HYPY? Read the HYPY as a whole or break up into its components (like EL phonics)?

But I suspect the issue is not knowing the 4 tones of HYPY. More like he does not know the proper pronounciation of the character. This type of prob can only be resolved by listening to/learning the proper pronounication. Hence I still recommend the CL dictionary learning method.

Just my 2cts worth.

[markfch]

E3:

markfch:

DS problem is not really this. He understands the rule that if both hanzi are 第三声, the first on must be written as 第二声

Don't want to confuse you further but do you mean 'read as' 第二声, not written as? The first char should still be indicated with its rightful sound which is 第三声.

You're right; I was confused. Must have been intoxicated by the medication I'm having today.

[Happy Mama]

lizhi:

English paper 1, The composition result came out, the differ is not much. seems many pupils got 16/20, one got 18/20 for all I know.

hi, Happy mama, how about your or your dd's source? :lol:

Hi Lizhi, DD's class has 5 pupils who scored 18/20. In general, the class did well for Paper 1.

[markfch]

Jennifer:

I think HYPY is not very impt. Only tested up to P3. After P3, no longer see HYPY qns. By then, I am sure most kids hv heard enough to know the proper pronounciation. Think no worth to sweat over this.

Is that so? Then it's great news to me. But iirc, Funx3 or issit Happy Mama mentioned here before that there's HYPY in PSLE.

Jennifer:

But if you really insist on perfecting HYPY, perhaps buy a CL dictionary. Flip to any 第二声 / 第三声 pages and read aloud the character's HYPY from its base to its right tone. Daily drilling for 5 to 10 mins shld help differentiate the tones. At the same time, learn more character. Kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

I could do that, you know. I think I could spend 5 min per day on this if it means that ds can improve.

Jennifer:

By the way, how's the sch CL teacher teach HYPY? Read the HYPY as a whole or break up into its components (like EL phonics)?

I think it's broken into sub-components because I heard ds said it out before.

Jennifer:

Your boy is good at recognising whole character, this is more crucial. Spend the precious time learning more characters rather than get stuck with this HYPY.

Thanks. I followed Tam's recommendation to the letter. And of course, there are many other helpful souls here who gave me good advice.

Jennifer:

But I suspect the issue is not knowing the 4 tones of HYPY. More like he does not know the proper pronounciation of the character. This type of prob can only be resolved by listening to/learning the proper pronounication. Hence I still recommend the CL dictionary learning method.

You may be right, since we hardly speak or watch any chinese programmes at home. I guess that's why ds's conversational skills is limited. The only saving grace is that I made him read loads of chinese books since K2.

Thanks again, you're helpful as usual. :salute:

[Funx3]

Jennifer:

I think HYPY is not very impt. Only tested up to P3. After P3, no longer see HYPY qns.

Not True -le ....
My P6 Gal Always got 2 Resident HYPY Q in Multiple Choice ....
Suppose to Be Gift Q ....
:evil: :evil:

[Funx3]

lizhi:

yes, my dd has started to learn P5 math. but she is too careless, this time she miscopied the qn number. :slapshead:

Have U come across this?

My Gal Shares with Me some Careless Soul Shaded Almost the Whole sets of Multiple Choice Q Answers into the Wrong Q nos ....
the First 2 Ans R shaded in the Correct Corresponding Q No, but ....
Accidentally Missed 1 Q No ....
And Shade the Rest of the 28 Q from Q4 onwards ....
:shock: :shock:

[markfch]

janet_lee88:

Son flunked Math in Section C...improving a little to pass his Section A (no calculator). Need to move on to see what needs to be done. P5 is a totally different ball game...mummies with children in P4, do give your kids a headstart in Nov/Dec. The first CA in P5 is a wake-up call even for kids who get 80-90 in P4. Foundation is crucial.


Think the school is trying to squeeze A and A* from the cohort as what one mummy mentioned...as good as squeezing blood out from stone.

Lizhi oredi gave her dd a headstart, at P3. No need to wait till P4. :yikes:

Was it you who mentioned maths is taught by your dh? From the way you said, I think when my ds reaches P5, I'm going to get a heart attack. :sick:

[Happy Mama]

Funx3:

lizhi:

yes, my dd has started to learn P5 math. but she is too careless, this time she miscopied the qn number. :slapshead:

Have U come across this?

My Gal Shares with Me some Careless Soul Shaded Almost the Whole sets of Multiple Choice Q Answers into the Wrong Q nos ....
the First 2 Ans R shaded in the Correct Corresponding Q No, but ....
Accidentally Missed 1 Q No ....
And Shade the Rest of the 28 Q from Q4 onwards ....
:shock: :shock:

:yikes: Oh no! Poor child! So the student failed that paper?! Funx3, thanks for sharing. I just shared this with DD to remind her to be careful.

[Happy Mama]

lizhi:

Jennifer:

To be kiasu, I think P4 parents need to start on P5 term 1 topics during the P4 Nov/Dec sch hols. This way, the child has adequately prepared himself for the jump in the level of difficulty in P5 and hence, CA1 paper will not be a shock and hopefully, the marks wld not slip too much to discourage the child.

yes, my dd has started to learn P5 math. but she is too careless, this time she miscopied the qn number. :slapshead:

Wow Lizhi, you are making me scared. :nailbite: Pri 3 learning Pri 5 work? :shock: :scared: