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      THC
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      timtim:
      Hi,


      I would like to solicit some feedback on your respective RC/NC's criteria in confirming Observers as Executive Members. The following criteria was set some time ago by our RC and it seems pretty stringent to me and I am currently reviewing it for my RC and to formalise it. My idea is to issue a checklist to observer so he/she has full control and knows when he/she is due for confirmation. I believe it will also make the whole process more transparent. Appreciates your frank feedback if you are aware of your RC/NC's practices. Tks.

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      The Criteria for the confirmation of Observer as Executive Member:

      (a). Attended 75 % of the Meeting
      (b). Organised 3 to 6 Floor Parties
      (c). Organised 1 to 3 Block Parties or 1 Divisional Event
      (d). Positive contributions to the community and RC

      Once the above criteria are met, Observer may be confirmed as Executive Member.
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      Hi - In reality, every RC/NC/CCMC/CCC/CDC...etc operates on different rigor (I believe they uses star rating to grade them). Therefore, there is no one solution/checklist that fits all. Sometimes strict rules and regulation is detrimental.

      Assuming a good percentage of parent decided to take the GRL route, the most active GRO will be flocked with volunteers, whereas the least active will have even tougher time recruiting.

      Advisor appointed Chairman should be able to make the call, ultimately he is responsible for his team.

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        THC
        last edited by

        THC:
        timtim:

        Hi,


        I would like to solicit some feedback on your respective RC/NC's criteria in confirming Observers as Executive Members. The following criteria was set some time ago by our RC and it seems pretty stringent to me and I am currently reviewing it for my RC and to formalise it. My idea is to issue a checklist to observer so he/she has full control and knows when he/she is due for confirmation. I believe it will also make the whole process more transparent. Appreciates your frank feedback if you are aware of your RC/NC's practices. Tks.

        =========================================
        The Criteria for the confirmation of Observer as Executive Member:

        (a). Attended 75 % of the Meeting
        (b). Organised 3 to 6 Floor Parties
        (c). Organised 1 to 3 Block Parties or 1 Divisional Event
        (d). Positive contributions to the community and RC

        Once the above criteria are met, Observer may be confirmed as Executive Member.
        ==========================================

        Hi - In reality, every RC/NC/CCMC/CCC/CDC...etc operates on different rigor (I believe they uses star rating to grade them). Therefore, there is no one solution/checklist that fits all. Sometimes strict rules and regulation is detrimental.

        Assuming a good percentage of parent decided to take the GRL route, the most active GRO will be flocked with volunteers, whereas the least active will have even tougher time recruiting.

        Advisor appointed Chairman should be able to make the call, ultimately he is responsible for his team.

        Not all volunteers have the ability to organise/lead events but are able to contribute in many other ways, and if above-mentioned criteria are strictly adhere to, then the team probably consists of more \"general\" then \"soliders\". As you mentioned, even if all criteria are met, the Chairman still make the final call.

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          timtim
          last edited by

          THC:
          THC:


          Hi - In reality, every RC/NC/CCMC/CCC/CDC...etc operates on different rigor (I believe they uses star rating to grade them). Therefore, there is no one solution/checklist that fits all. Sometimes strict rules and regulation is detrimental.

          Assuming a good percentage of parent decided to take the GRL route, the most active GRO will be flocked with volunteers, whereas the least active will have even tougher time recruiting.

          Advisor appointed Chairman should be able to make the call, ultimately he is responsible for his team.

          Not all volunteers have the ability to organise/lead events but are able to contribute in many other ways, and if above-mentioned criteria are strictly adhere to, then the team probably consists of more \"general\" then \"soliders\". As you mentioned, even if all criteria are met, the Chairman still make the final call.

          I totally agree. For our RC, we have formed a 3-member subcomm to decide on the promotion of observers and removal of observers/members, of which I am one of them, besides being a VC looking into RC Admin. I feel the criteria should be flexible enough to accommodate all \"talents\", not a rigid one. Our current Chairman is also very star-oriented, aiming for 4 stars every yr at all cost and in the process, making members feel exhausted. He has forgotten that we are just volunteers.

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            Daddy D
            last edited by

            If the members don’t contribute… the chairman also see "stars" end of the day…

            In chasing the stars ratings, everyone forgot about serving the community…
            GRL route… u’re limited by your address… so you can’t join any RC/NC u like. If the one u joined is "problematic" then good luck liao…

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              timtim
              last edited by

              Daddy 😧
              If the members don't contribute... the chairman also see \"stars\" end of the day...

              In chasing the stars ratings, everyone forgot about serving the community...
              GRL route... u're limited by your address... so you can't join any RC/NC u like. If the one u joined is \"problematic\" then good luck liao...
              As volunteers, if you add up all the events (own RC, other RCs/GROs and constituency/national wide) that one needs to be involved in, it's humongous. Not to mention the ever increasing committees and sub committees formed/mandated by PA/CCC. If so, better pay us allowance, just like MPs. At least MPs are paid for their time and effort, we got nothing out of it, only stress and pressures from Chairman/CCC. I can only say my first chairman was a \"human\", the current one a \"robot\".

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                bluemoon
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                timtim:

                As volunteers, if you add up all the events (own RC, other RCs/GROs and constituency/national wide) that one needs to be involved in, it's humongous. Not to mention the ever increasing committees and sub committees formed/mandated by PA/CCC. If so, better pay us allowance, just like MPs. At least MPs are paid for their time and effort, we got nothing out of it, only stress and pressures from Chairman/CCC. I can only say my first chairman was a \"human\", the current one a \"robot\".
                I so agree! I was shocked by the amount of time we have to contribute and my RC is not even active like Timtim's! Every week, we will receive a sms from PA asking us to attend this sharing session or that meeting or some gathering. An hour here and there adds up, not to mention the travelling time.

                So please be prepared when you sign up for volunteer work.

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                  timtim
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                  bluemoon:
                  timtim:


                  As volunteers, if you add up all the events (own RC, other RCs/GROs and constituency/national wide) that one needs to be involved in, it's humongous. Not to mention the ever increasing committees and sub committees formed/mandated by PA/CCC. If so, better pay us allowance, just like MPs. At least MPs are paid for their time and effort, we got nothing out of it, only stress and pressures from Chairman/CCC. I can only say my first chairman was a \"human\", the current one a \"robot\".

                  I so agree! I was shocked by the amount of time we have to contribute and my RC is not even active like Timtim's! Every week, we will receive a sms from PA asking us to attend this sharing session or that meeting or some gathering. An hour here and there adds up, not to mention the travelling time.

                  So please be prepared when you sign up for volunteer work.

                  Ya boy, the sms come in like we are full-time paid staffs!!

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                    daddy2007
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                    timtim:
                    Ya boy, the sms come in like we are full-time paid staffs!!

                    Totally agreed. Every week there will be bound to have sms coming in.

                    The enthusiasm of joining community works has now became... \"Oh no.. not another event/meeting again\"

                    Something must be wrong with the system

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                      New Kiasu Parent
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                      [quote]Ya boy, the sms come in like we are full-time paid staffs!![/quote][/quote]


                      Agreed.. sometimes I got this feeling - \"Volunteer\" or \"Free Labourer\"?

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                        New Kiasu Parent
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                        daddy2007:
                        timtim:

                        Ya boy, the sms come in like we are full-time paid staffs!!


                        Totally agreed. Every week there will be bound to have sms coming in.

                        The enthusiasm of joining community works has now became... \"Oh no.. not another event/meeting again\"

                        Something must be wrong with the system

                        Sooner or later, those who joined with much enthusiasm will eventually withdraw from the RC and new observer may also find it difficult to continue volunteering as the volunteering job scope is really too wide.. eg. door-to-door selling event tickets, hanging national day flags before National Day within the neighbourhood and tearing down the flags after National Day..who are willing to do all these?

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