How to tell if a child is gifted?
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[quote]Posted: 24 Jul 2009 00:16 Post subject: Kaypoh People
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EN wrote:
You mean the kepo citizen? I taught my kids to also say \"okay\" when anybody ask about their results. By now, the relatives/friends and family know our standard answer will be \"okay\". As a mum, I must look out for my daughter's heart too.
Hey, SAME!
Me too!
I have trained them to say ok as well.
But once DD1 kena corner by so many
aunties/uncles and grandparents from
left right centre asking her to detail her
school work, what exam questions came
out, what band she got..... a few blatant
souls asked exactly how many marks is
that Band 1 for? The extent some
people go to, huh... Ya lah, reali kaypoh.
Buuuuttt, if you do the same for their kids,
they'll come and butt in to answer for them.
Lame. [/quote]keke. I can imagine the scenario. I have actually seen that. None dare to do it to my kids. Relatives and friends know us too well. Me and DH can turn really nasty if people around us dont know the appropriate way to behave. :lol: -
mrswongtuition, I believe in nature and nurture.
I have two different kids like night and day, so does my parents and my grandparents. Seems to run in the family.
Since one is bestowed with so much nature, I spend more time nurturing the other one. Must create a balance family mah. -
EN:
I personally believe in nurture. If the kid is naturally talents/gifted, then we should nurture him/her to achieve more.mrswongtuition, I believe in nature and nurture.
I have two different kids like night and day, so does my parents and my grandparents. Seems to run in the family.
Since one is bestowed with so much nature, I spend more time nurturing the other one. Must create a balance family mah.
No kids are born 'stupid' or 'dumb', it's how they are taught/nurtured that matters. -
Hi Wesim
There is no concrete evidence that teaching a child to read at 18 months will help him be more advanced. There are lot of people making money out of manipulating parents to think that if they don’t do loads of additional study they will turn out academically challenged! Believe me, I was a single mother raising 2 sons on a small income - one of my sons turned out to be a genius and gifted and I certainly did not know until first year in university when we sat for a 2 hour exam and finished it in 30 minutes. He did not attend a single additional after school class nor did he have a tutor. I did provide lots of books, lots of love and I never punished, just listened and understood their needs. Today he is doing his Masters and only last week he emailed me his results of two high distinctions, so it must be in his DNA. LOL If he did not go to university because he may not have been smart enough, that too would have been okay with me so long as he got a good trade that would allow him to support him through life. To me there is nothing wrong with being a plumber or an electrician if this is what he/she would enjoy. Besides Richard Branson did not have a degree, nor did Lady Diana, nor did Paul Keating (one of Australia’s great Prime Ministers, Oprah, just to name a few). All successful people !
Also we cannot hurry nature - if we removed the baby during pregnancy the baby would die, instead we have to wait for the whole 9 months until the baby is fully developed Like so when our kids are born, they need to go through being babies, playing, exploring and not being forced to learn maths and english - it is unnatural. If they wish to learn, they will do so without parents forcing them.
So chin up kiddo !! Give your child lots of love and lots of books and listen to what he or she is good at i.e. if your child is good at sports, encourage him and join him up in good sporting teams, child is good at music, encourage and support that - When your child does get to school he will learn what he/she needs to learn and you can keep a close watch on him and help him through. Socialise him and teach him manners and good values and the rest will follow. -
:goodpost: Skippy!
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[Moderator's note: Topics merged.]
How can u tell an ordinary baby from a gifted one?
Here are some clues..
Uniformly Advanced Development
A child who does everything early: Smiles, walks, talks, pick up objects is probably going to continue to develope at an advanced clip, and may turn out to be exceptionally gifted.
Good memory and power of observation
Gifted children often amaze their parents with the things they remember, and when things differ from what they recollect (e.g Mummy's got new hair cut, Daddy got a new coat) they will notice it immediately
Creativity and originality
A gifted child can also surprise parents by being able to figure out a way to get to a toy that is stuck behind a child, reach a high shelf in the bookcase (pile up books from lower shelves to climb on), or even use sign language for a word that is beyond their linguistic abilities (such as pointing to her own nose to indicate that the animal in the book is an elephant, or to her ears if its a rabbit)
Curiosity and concentration
While all babies are intensly curious, the very gifted are not only curious but have the persistence and concentration to explore what it is they are curious about.
Ability to make connection
They are also able to see relationships between things and will be able to apply old knowledge to new situations. E.g Accustomed to pushing the button for the lift in her house and sees a lift in a store and start to look for the button.
Rich Imagination
Before a year, the gifted child may be able to pretend to drink a cup of coffee and soon become heavily involved in making stories, games and pretend friends.
Lastly, bear in mind that every child is gifted in some way. Whatever talents emerge in your child, they will develope fully if you nuture and encourages them from early.
Appreciating your child instead of trying to mould her into the person you would like her to be is the very best way to help her use the gifts that she has been blessed with. -
EN:
keke. I can imagine the scenario. I have actually seen that. None dare to do it to my kids. Relatives and friends know us too well. Me and DH can turn really nasty if people around us dont know the appropriate way to behave. :lol:
Me and sashimi are also like you and your DH. My tongue is sharp, regardless of offender's gender, social standing and age. sashimi's words are worse. Best is sashimi's \"black face\"; can scare away \"potential\" kaypohs. :lol: -
hi,
thanks for sharing.
mods, can consider merging with http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2353&start=0.
TQ. -
[quote]EN wrote:
mrswongtuition, I believe in nature and nurture.
I have two different kids like night and day, so does my parents and my grandparents. Seems to run in the family.
Since one is bestowed with so much nature, I spend more time nurturing the other one. Must create a balance family mah.
I personally believe in nurture. If the kid is naturally talents/gifted, then we should nurture him/her to achieve more.
No kids are born 'stupid' or 'dumb', it's how they are taught/nurtured that matters.[/quote]
Please don't get me wrong. I do spend time with both. With limited time daily, I rather give more time helping the ones that needed more help.
Like what Tamarind says earlier \"some kids need only 1 time to be taught and some kids needs a lot of repetition to learn\". -
I just read this interesting article. Just to clarify, I do not believe in any IQ testing. But I absolutely agree with certain points which I highlighted in the following article.
What We Have Learned About Gifted Children
30th Anniversary
1979 - 2009
Linda Silverman, Ph.D., Director
Gifted Development Center
The Gifted Development Center has been in operation since June, 1979, and we have assessed over 5,600 children in the last 30 years. By concentrating totally on the gifted population, we have acquired a considerable amount of knowledge about the development of giftedness. In 1994-1995, three noted researchers spent post-doctoral internships assisting us in coding our clinical data to enable statistical analysis: Drs. Frank Falk and Nancy Miller of the University of Akron, and Dr. Karen Rogers of the University of St. Thomas. Here are some of the highlights of what we have learned so far:
1. Parents are excellent identifiers of giftedness in their children: 84% of 1,000 children whose parents felt that they exhibited 3/4 of the traits in our Characteristics of Giftedness Scale tested in the superior or gifted range. Over 95% demonstrated giftedness in at least one area, but were asynchronous in their development, and their weaknesses depressed their composite IQ scores.
2. Giftedness can be observed in the first three years by rapid progression through the developmental milestones. These milestones should be documented and taken seriously as evidence of giftedness. Early identification of advanced development is as essential as early identification of any other exceptionality. Early intervention promotes optimal development in all children.
3. When parents fail to recognize a child’s gifts, teachers may overlook them as well. Rita Dickinson (1970) found that half of the children she tested with IQs of 132 or above were referred for behavior problems and not seen as gifted by their teachers or parents. Parent advocacy is critical for gifted children’s emotional and academic growth. Associate Director, Bobbie Gilman’s (2008a) award-winning book, Academic Advocacy for Gifted Children: A Parent’s Complete Guide, can guide parents in effectively advocating for their children. Challenging Highly Gifted Learners (Gilman, 2008b) is an excellent book for teachers and parents.
4. Children and adults can be assessed at any age. However, the ideal age for testing is between 5 and 8 ½ years. By the age of 9, highly gifted children may hit the ceiling of the tests, and gifted girls may be socialized to hide their abilities. Unless they are absolutely certain they are right, gifted girls are often unwilling to guess, which lowers their IQ scores.
5. Brothers and sisters are usually within five or ten points in measured ability. Parents' IQ scores are often within 10 points of their children's; even grandparents' IQ scores may be within 10 points of their grandchildren's. We studied 148 sets of siblings and found that over 1/3 were within five points of each other, over 3/5 were within 10 points, and nearly 3/4 were within 13 points. When one child in the family is identified as gifted, the chances are great that all members of the family are gifted.
6. Second children are recognized as gifted much less frequently than first-borns or only children. They often go in the opposite direction of their older siblings and are less likely to be achievement oriented. Even the first-born identical twin has a greater chance of being accepted in a gifted program than the second-born!
7. IQ testing in childhood clearly demonstrates the equality of intelligence between males and females. Until the IQ test was developed, most of society believed in the “natural superiority of males.” Even now, the fact that most of the eminent are men leads some to believe that males are innately more intelligent than females. On the contrary, we have found more than 100 girls with IQ scores above 180. The highest IQ score on record at our Center was attained by a girl, and four of the five highest scores were earned by girls. However, parents are more likely to bring their sons for assessment and overlook their daughters, and this inequity appears to be getting worse. From 1979 to 1989, 57% of the children brought for testing were male, and 43% were female, whereas 51% above 160 IQ were male and 49% female (see chart). In 2008, 68% of the children brought for testing were male and only 32% female, while the distribution in the highest IQ ranges is 60% male and 40% female.
Source : http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/What_is_Gifted/learned.htm
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