2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take

[Castle House]

Champion:

Castle House:

What is this 14yo PRC girl?

Hi, can read this
http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=27285

Thanks..
:shock: you mean she sat for the PSLE when she was only 13? Now she is in Secondary?

[bigsnoopy]

KSP:

mummy of 3:

It was only recent years, they have top scholars there.. that why it became popular and in other's opinion a 'good' school..
[quote]Just like Qifa PS. Top Scholars in 2009 then start balloting in P2C in 2010...

that PRC girl was 14 when she took the PSLE that yr .... it was like a Sec2 student taking PSLE again...[/quote]Oh then it's not very fair right?

[THC]

Just like Qifa PS. Top Scholars in 2009 then start balloting in P2C in 2010…[/quote][/quote]


that PRC girl was 14 when she took the PSLE that yr … it was like a Sec2 student taking PSLE again…[/quote]
Oh then it’s not very fair right?[/quote]

I remember reading somewhere that students from non-english speaking country join one or two level lower classes. On a national level, these students although a small percentage but generally bright/hardworking makes it a lot harder to get high aggregrate PSLE score. Should MOE look into this ?

[Pen88n]

These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.


Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.

Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don’t we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?

[phtthp]

well said Pen88n! :goodpost:

[Pen88n]

I just felt disappointed to hear people saying unfair about foreign students topping at our education system. If the foreign students can work against all odds to top in our so-very-competitive education system, shouldn’t we recognise that they indeed have some qualities we / our kids may not possess and learn from them?


By the time our kids grow up, the world is their oyster. They are going out there to "compete" with not only Singaporeans, but foreigners as well. How well they survive or thrive out there is dependent on the qualities they have acquired over the years. Fittest survive, and the fittest come with all the right qualities and attitude.

[Edureach]

Don’t worry too much about not able to enter a famous primary school due to some reasons. Your kids have plenty of opportunities to showcase their talents even in a neighbourhood one.


Your kids won’t lose out by not being in a famous school. Afterall, is only primary 1.

[bigsnoopy]

well I am just commenting that the gal has a two years advantage over other on equal grounds. You cannot deny that being 2 years older = more mature and can comprehen faster. I also remembered that in my days, those older students (not only foreigners) will take as private candidate. By adding the grades of older students (I stress not only foreigners) will raise the standard and add to the stress level. I am not saying unfair because she is a PR but of the age different. anyway I am sure these PR also have pretty high standard of education in their own country and It is the english language that is giving them the problem.

[THC]

Pen88n:

These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.


Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.

Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don't we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?

No doubt foreigners (especially those from non-english speaking background) have disadvantages in English but they do have their langauge advantage (example CL) as well.

I really have no doubt about their attitude/determine and admire their maturity/discipine but why should the majority be placed at a disadvantage position ?

You choose your battle to fight...2 yrs age differences in primary school is a lot of different from 2 years in 30s, 40s or 50s.

My concern is still on the impact on aggregrate scores.

[Pen88n]

THC:

Pen88n:

These foreign students came to Singapore and may not be up to standard for some subjects like English. For them to integrate into our school system, they usually need to join in at a lower level, pick up English and use that for all subjects. This is not like a Sec 2 students taking PSLE, as she is not at sec 2 standard when she joined our education system.


Age-wise, she may be older. But considering that she comes from a different environment and had to re-learn a lot, I think we have to give her due credit for her hard work and perseverance. It is thru hard work that she get to be at the top, there is nothing unfair about it! The Singapore kid who has been exposed to the same education system for 6 years (from P1-P6) has an advantage over this PRC gal who joined the system only for 3 years - double the time.

Instead of harping on unfairness of foreign students joining at a few years diff in age, why don't we recognise their strengths and highlight their perseverance to our kids?

No doubt foreigners (especially those from non-english speaking background) have disadvantages in English but they do have their langauge advantage (example CL) as well.

I really have no doubt about their attitude/determine and admire their maturity/discipine but why should the majority be placed at a disadvantage position ?

You choose your battle to fight...2 yrs age differences in primary school is a lot of different from 2 years in 30s, 40s or 50s.

My concern is still on the impact on aggregrate scores.

It is not only English. In Singapore, English is the base for Maths and Science too. So, in fact, there are 3 subjects involved at the very least.

And you are comparing language advantage for PRC only. What about foreign students from our neighbouring countries like Thailand or Vietnam? These students may not have language advantage afterall.

Majority of Singaporean students have 6 years (if you are counting from Pri sch only, not to mention Nursery and Kindergarten) in the education system here, and you are saying they are at a disadvantage position compared with someone who joined the education system for 3 years only? Just because the person is 2 years older? :scratchhead: