2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take

[dankhim]

phtthp:

the rate at foreigners converting into PRs is alarming! At Phase 1, now we can't distinguish between who are the true blue Singaporeans born and bred here, vs. those PRs.


we must do something about this... Yes! , make a clear distinguish between fellow Singaporeans vs. those who are not.

if not, going forward 30 yrs from now - when come to our grandchildren generation, with influx of foreigners coming in so rapidly and getting converted into PRs so fast, even P2A will fast problem. Because by then, these PR grandchildren will be ahead of us - since they go under Phase 1 ranking.

the way i see it ... 30 yrs from now, won't be any Phase 2A1 nor Phase 2A2. It's either Phase 1 or Phase 2A. Phase 2A1 & Phase 2A2 - will just be combined together, intoa common Phase 2A. No more phase 2B nor 2C, because the rate of foreigners coming into SG, converting into PRs is really alarming!

just look at NTU university ... you see so many China students come here to SG get PRs so easily, all over entire campus.

Hmm... If that is most Singaporean concern, then I seek for those who has the chance of Phase 1 and 2, pls stick to it regardless of the distance. Travelling in Singapore is not as bad after all. Those who came from JB also can score well. Do not give up the chance and so that when children grow up and married, they still can pass the chance to their children if influx of PR is really a concern. For those who's parent had worked so hard to them to get into popular school, we should be holding the right and pass to the next generation. :nunchuk:

[zhuangzi]

P2A(2) is flawed as most will choose not to join alumni as they do not want to pay for it. Some might argue that this is not fair to those poorer. I suggest dividing equally the vacancy after P2A(1), if odd number just allocate to those in P2A(2)

[zhuangzi]

MMM:

jtoh:

It's terrible when they have to turn PVs away. Usually schools try to limit the number of PVs so that they're able to take in all.

Yes and I strongly believe that for those schools who are popular during registration eg. demand way exceeds supply, they should stop accepting PVs especially when they have other source of 2B eg. clan, religious group, etc....

I am glad my kids' school don't accept PVs for that reason. Why give other parents' false hope and then at the same time require people to put in the time and effort to complete their PV when you can't even give them a place in the end????

Agree with you 200%. Look at some of the popular school. I won't be surprise some parents who had done PV will be in a position that their kid can't even get into the school of their choice.

Given the current tight enrolment, I suggest MOE order all popular schools to increase intake by at least 10 seats. What's one more seat per class right?

[akroutray]

I am a PR and I seriously think that it is only fair that whenever there is balloting, the preference should be given to Singaporean first and then PR. So all eligible Singaporeans meeting criteria such PV and distance etc are given a seat before anything is offered to PRs.

[mummy of 3]

wanderlust-alm:

Hi hi,


I am planning to apply for NanHua under P2C . I am within 1km . Basing on past stats of 33% chance for balloting within 1 km . I have plan B.

My plan B is to go either for Pei Tong ( within 2 km ) or Fu Hua in Jurong East ( further away approx 4 km + ) for P2C supp. Both schools do not need any balloting at all even for P3 ! The reason is because Fuhua seems to have pretty good results for last year PSLE . Any parents with children in Pei Tong or Fu Hua who can enlighten me ? Pei Tong seem more ideal as it is single session and nearer but the results does not look good.

The alternative plan is just forget about NanHua and go for Qifa where my house is merely meters away only and should have no problem getting in P2C.

Can some parents give me your opinions ?

Thanks in advance. Getting very Kan Cheong already

U may want to monitor on the last day morning so u can decide in the afternoon. :?

[g2m6]

citizens to get double the chance when it comes to balloting is just such a lame effort to shut out noises from sporeans… PRs who are in popular schools now can register their siblings in phase 1 or those who were in popular school previously can be in Phase 2A2 while sporeans who did PV still cant get into the school.

[akroutray]

Whenever there is competion between Singaporean and PR during any phase, Singpaoreans should be given preference. It is not fair to compare with earlier phases.

[jtoh]

zhuangzi:

MMM:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]It's terrible when they have to turn PVs away. Usually schools try to limit the number of PVs so that they're able to take in all.

Yes and I strongly believe that for those schools who are popular during registration eg. demand way exceeds supply, they should stop accepting PVs especially when they have other source of 2B eg. clan, religious group, etc....

I am glad my kids' school don't accept PVs for that reason. Why give other parents' false hope and then at the same time require people to put in the time and effort to complete their PV when you can't even give them a place in the end????

Agree with you 200%. Look at some of the popular school. I won't be surprise some parents who had done PV will be in a position that their kid can't even get into the school of their choice.

Given the current tight enrolment, I suggest MOE order all popular schools to increase intake by at least 10 seats. What's one more seat per class right?[/quote]I disagree. It would affect the school's logistics in terms of teachers, facilities etc. And once you introduce this, it'll have long term implications. These students will move up from P1 to P2 to P3 and so on. So the school has to cater to these students all the way. And once you set a precedent, next year's parents will insist on the same - that the school increase its intake for them.

And what signal are we sending out to the other schools and parents? That the other schools are no good?

The schools will just have to incur the wrath of these PVs they turn away because of poor planning. Then they'll learn next year not to repeat their mistake. Just like the big hoo-ha caused by NYPS for the intake of 2008 where some PVs had to be turned away. They never made the same mistake again. Don't know about this year though.

[wanderlust-alm]

mummy of 3:

wanderlust-alm:

Hi hi,


I am planning to apply for NanHua under P2C . I am within 1km . Basing on past stats of 33% chance for balloting within 1 km . I have plan B.

My plan B is to go either for Pei Tong ( within 2 km ) or Fu Hua in Jurong East ( further away approx 4 km + ) for P2C supp. Both schools do not need any balloting at all even for P3 ! The reason is because Fuhua seems to have pretty good results for last year PSLE . Any parents with children in Pei Tong or Fu Hua who can enlighten me ? Pei Tong seem more ideal as it is single session and nearer but the results does not look good.

The alternative plan is just forget about NanHua and go for Qifa where my house is merely meters away only and should have no problem getting in P2C.

Can some parents give me your opinions ?

Thanks in advance. Getting very Kan Cheong already

U may want to monitor on the last day morning so u can decide in the afternoon. :?

Thanks mummy of 3. I know for sure there will be balloting for Nanhua and this year place for P2C is only 28 places which is even lesser than last year. so % stats should be 1/3 or less. Wondering if any parents with kids in Pei Tong or Fu Hua who can advise me on the school ? Or some one from Qifa as maybe i should just secure Qifa in P2C whereby my kids can walk to school as school is less than 100m away

[Champion]

LKVM:

I agree with this point strongly,... I feel either the school should totally give away the PV system or they must control it really really hard... last year same thing happened for West Grove and I guess this year they controlled so guess it shouldnt be that bad....
I can imagine the ppl who did PV for Rulang and they had to be turned away even for 1-2 KM

I am wondering - can we do away with this PV system? No offence to any parents but it would be fair and square for everyone if all fall under the same category....Well, I know some may beg to differ from my point here but seriously this PV thing is really creating the big hoo-haa - already 2 cases here in JW area [last year West Grove and this year Rulang] :sad: