2011 P1 Registration Exercise for 2012 In-Take

[LOLMum]

would you be happy with the constant shifting of teachers and principals especially when your kid is sitting for psle?

[1amber]

Scary:

1amber:

[quote=\"pinetart\"]Agree with Phtthp that priorities should be given to Singaporeans and whatever bal go to PRs/foreigners. Though in a balloting situation, each Sgporean will have extra ballot ticket but we still need to go through balloting. It is like a lucky draw system - be it extra one more, two more or three more lucky draw tickets , (it is still lucky draw) Sgporeans shouldn't go through same-alike lucky draw - Sgporeans should gotten the prize directly. My PR neighbour has 3 sons and so fortunately, the eldest went in after Phase 3C balloting...so ultimately the siblings will follow. in time, applicants for Phase 1 and 2 will grow.

Yeah being a 3rd generation singaporean and the thought of having to join the queue for a lucky draw in order to get an education makes me feel rather uncherished as a citizen - knowing fully well through people I know that PRs and even new citizens stand a high chance of returning to their home country after their children have grown up. The new citizen kids have dual citizen by the way. They have up to 18 years of age to decide if they want to remain or return. In the end we just help to educate other nation's kids while our own citizens may have been squeezed out of choiced schools.

Talking about this. I have an ex-colleague who is an Indonesian. PR in SG. Purposely went to US to give birth. So now kid can decide whether he wants to be Indo, SG or US comes 18. Sgporeans nothing for them to decide. We Are Singaporeans \"proudly\" we sing. Yes, I used to sing it proudly in my school days on National Days. I do want to sing it again but upon thinking about my priorities in the country, I feel sian.[/quote]Ha ha from singaporeans to siAn-gaporeans...

[CactusInDesert]

Tend to agree also that PR should be under a different phase. Not only for all the reasons stated above, I believe there is no requirement for PR boys to serve NS as well. So there will be situation where PR boys is given priority over Sporean boys (who need to serve 2 yrs of their life to the country).

[g2m6]

just imagine if the govt has been more successful in raising the birth rate in spore ... the situation would be worse isnt it :mad:


lucky they have not been successful

[zhuangzi]

However you wanna see it, 10-20 years down the road, Singapore will be further separated by the elite and non-elite class. You and I can’t deny the fact that a better school environment give your child a better chance to do well. Moreover, the better schools are able to attract better teachers also.


When this kids go become parents themselves, their kid will gain direct access to the better school. Overtime, it will slowly but surely draw a dividing line. Worse, given the high number of PR we took in over the last decade, very soon, you will find yourself balloting for a place in 2A. Like the Goldman report about increasing difference between the private and public housing price, it will have a huge long term negative impact.

I urge the ministry to look deeper into this issue and attempt to resolve it. Some had suggested in this forum about the abolishment of PV, which I agree, and such practice will have to be phrased out slowly over the next few years.

I’m no high paying civil servants, so I will leave the thinking to them.

[LOLMum]

CactusInDesert:

Tend to agree also that PR should be under a different phase. Not only for all the reasons stated above, I believe there is no requirement for PR boys to serve NS as well. So there will be situation where PR boys is given priority over Sporean boys (who need to serve 2 yrs of their life to the country).

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Second Generation Permanent Residents are required to go through compulsory full-time military service as well as reservist duties after they have completed their full-time military service and turns operationally-ready.

They will also be granted Singaporean citizenship during their full-time national service. If the person decides not to take up citizenship after his full-time national service, he is still required to serve the service requirement, i.e. reservist duties after he turns operationally-ready.

Singapore Permanent Residents who served national service but did not acquire Singapore citizenship will be treated equally to those permanent residents without service obligation; they would not have access to the privileges granted to Singapore citizens.

[CactusInDesert]

LOLMum:

Second Generation Permanent Residents are required to go through compulsory full-time military service as well as reservist duties after they have completed their full-time military service and turns operationally-ready.

They will also be granted Singaporean citizenship during their full-time national service. If the person decides not to take up citizenship after his full-time national service, he is still required to serve the service requirement, i.e. reservist duties after he turns operationally-ready.

Singapore Permanent Residents who served national service but did not acquire Singapore citizenship will be treated equally to those permanent residents without service obligation; they would not have access to the privileges granted to Singapore citizens.

So likely is the PR boys will have even higher chance they return back to their country so as not to serve NS, after enjoying better education! But Sporean boys have no choice at all unless their parents migrated out in time before serving NS.

[g2m6]

for top civil servants including ministers all they see are statistics and numbers… u think they will understand the situation on the ground ? even if there are 500 more P1 pupils next yr so long as the overall school vacancies is balanced out with an additional 500 seats to them there is no problem.


but for a parent who has to ballot and lost her vacancy an additional pupil is one too many.

[1amber]

I’d like to think that if govt had been more successful in our population policy to raise childbirth then we wouldn’t be seeing so many foreigners granted PR and citizenship so quickly (refering to those granted in the last decade). Some people I know were granted citizenship just briefly after they landed on our shores.

[alng]

zhuangzi:

I'm no high paying civil servants, so I will leave the thinking to them.

hahaha...my dh also told me a couple days ago that our responsibilities are to highlight the problems and he will only think of solutions if he is paid $3 millions salary.