新加坡人满口错误, 何时会改善？ 快了! 大家快加油, 面对挑战!
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A person who speaks well needs to pronounce words well and speak grammatically. Hence one needs to pay attention to both pronunciation and grammar. It is not enough to be vigilant about Singlish in our environment.
I understand you have some difficulties with grammar and word recognition despite your efforts. So it is highly possible that some people may have difficulty improving their speech despite efforts. Being highly educated does not necessarily mean that one is strong in spoken language. For example, some people are more numerical and less verbal and excel in numerical fields. It is not purely an issue of attitude alone.
In the general scheme of things, one may prioritise other areas of life depending on one’s circumstances and may not emphasise the spoken language as much as you do. We must always respect the choices and wisdom of others; just as they respect ours.
与其改变环境，不如改变自己。
别人不了解我，不是他们的错，是我自己沟通得不够好。
别人不同意我的观点，不是他们的错，是我自己不够说服力。
与其说教，不如以身作则。
以上供参考，要改变一些社会现象，人际关系因素还是挺重要的，因为沟通方式不当，只有反效果。 -
I am referring to improvement or progress within their means.
Environment is created by people. There are certain childcare centers with more china kids and more Australian for Australian School..etc, these are the environment where if you send your kids there… it is easier for them to speak certain language more fluently. For some reasons, I go for事在人为. Sometimes if one didn’t maintain certain skills, after a while or a long time… it will be lost. Eg. Some people learned Elementary Japanese and hadn’t the environment to speak Japanese.
I felt that we should progress and someday when we need to deal with huge foreign competition, we could take care of it easily.
Why am I addressing our problems on spoken languages… a very practical reason… no matter what we speak everyday… English as a First language and Mandarin as 2nd for mostly Chinese(because of that SG is very unique)… for at least 10 to 15 years(Schooling) and over 20... 30... 40 years of experience talking… It is very sad that some positions like customer service officers, credit cards/banks hotlines… our local is not speaking fluent enough to fill such position. Most Asian countries have their
own language and English as a foreign languages and they could speak very fluent English. They account for it better. Nowadays, filipinos filled professional position like nurses, bankers and senior officers. I also realized that hotlines for BOC, they hired many Chinese who speaks very good English.
Come on.. what’s else to share about our daily repeated mistakes… Let’s share and progress. -
I’ve heard numerious complaints about our spoken Languages standard(parents of other nationality) and usually, I will pay more attention to those particular words or phrases. Some words are easy to be mis-used and get hooked, Eg. "got", "already","Never"… Etc. After replacing "Sure!" with "Can,can,can"(for instance) helps to make spoken English sounds much better. I realized that "Can" already comes from Hokkien "Egg Siagh" (didn’t know e correct spelling, just how it sounds) which many Hokkien used to end their conversation.
Like all campaigns, regardless it’s quit smoking/recycling/ban singish/speak proper mandarin/english campaigns… Need more people to participate inorder for it to work and improve the environment. Last week on 9.58 FM, they exchanged ideals about bringing up our standard… And this is very motivating.
Children picks up lines very quickly and if no body cares about speaking proper English/Mandarin, they will be badly affected… Since we have more educated parents(over e years) than before… It should helps. Let’s be inspired! 加油！ -
Here is a tough one. How do we say "Please Cc me in all future emails" in proper Mandarin. Anyone knows?
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Good to have someone pointing out the facts though.
Ya… After recognizing that "读书" is not so correct, I think "上学" should be used more frequently. My other friends came back to Singapore for summer holiday and told me that their children pick up broken english so quickly. I was also surprised to find more foreigners than before. There were many Filipinos working in Coffee Bean these days and they speak good english. In the States, many Chinese can’t speak Mandarin but if you find someone who speaks Mandarin, you will be impressed… although they learn from their parents. Pardon me… looking at the current environment, it is a long way to go before you start hearing more local speaking with better languages standard. That is why many of my friends brought their children to the States for education. Singaporean definitely are capable of doing better… but Alas… too hard to beat it. -
General99all:
Here is a tough one. How do we say \"Please Cc me in all future emails\" in proper Mandarin. Anyone knows?
以后的邮件请抄送一份给我. -
Yes. "抄送"， hear many people talking to their china supplier "请放我进去”or "放我在里面”。 I think "请在来往的邮件中，抄送给我。" is also correct.
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Last Thur, 9.58fm 4.15pm talked about building confident in children and reduce "错败感”。 I personally felt that if the child has been speaking using correct grammar and phrases from young, this has helped the child to be more confident than some who don’t.
Have anyone ever wonder… Every morning i wake my child and say "…快上学了","爸妈也来不急上班了"。But each time, we bump into neighbours(with their kids) in the lift or void deck, you won’t hear people using the phrases I did. I was wondering, where does the "读书" come from? If it was from English, people here don’t "say go to study", they say "go to School" but the mandarin part "学校"has not been widely used. But the "做工" and the English version of "going off to work" matches. Why?
Yah, i am also puzzle with "做工＂and "工作", why the 2 ＂zuo" is of different character. -
我侥幸的看到你的文章，也对这事件有些看法。又喜又悲。喜是因为有人关心我们所面对的问题，悲是因为你的呼吁行动失败。只有少数人要用标准的发音和正确的词汇是不能够进步的。说实在的, 教育本要从家里开始，而越标准越好。我的孩子上了学后不敢在同学和老师面前叫我”妈咪”，改用ma3 mi4因为他怕人家会以为他是中国孩子也怕没有朋友。说话用的词也跟随他的环境的成度。有时候一急也会说错话 “我生气你”, (他的朋友常用的语法)。我们对他的栽培和要求也让他认为是过高的。
你问我们是否有条件? 我说有条件没环境不如说没条件。
听过“孟母三迁”吗？新加坡面积不大，那就是迁到海外了。
不过现在,在百货公司和学校都能碰到中国人。所以我们的环境还在改变。我同意” 孩子能在无形中轻松的掌握好双语”, 我们是大人… 不关是什么情况,我都不希望我的孩子是受害者。我希望其他家长们也能多注意,多灌输标准的语言。 -
I just read the first few pages of this thread, and to those people who mocked at General99all’s mistakes, I hope that you can reflect on what you have done. Will you say the same thing if you were talking to General99all face to face ? The internet allows you to hide behind a nickname and say whatever you like without any concern about other people’s feelings, but that does not mean that it is right to do so.
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