SBS Transit, SMRT submit applications for fare adjustment

[limlim]

3Boys:

Really? What's the statistic for public charitable donations in Singapore, compared with other countries?

No, you just need to compare the reaction towards NKF before and after the Durai case.

My point is, the reactions towards SMRT will be different, whether it is perceived as \"rich and greedy\" or \"barely covering costs\". We can see this from the reaction towards NKF when it is perceived as \"needing support\" or \"rich and greedy\".

comparing to other countries is totally irrelevant and out of the point.

I would say, the resentment towards SMRT fare hike would be much much lesser.. is there a need to prove my point? I really doubt so.. But if needed, the NKF case is an example. More willing to donate vs less willing to donate. More willing to pay higher fares vs less willing to pay higher fares.. see the relationship?

[limlim]

LOLMum:

once you dish out benefits, no way you can cut it.

Sadly.. that, is the truth..

Once they gone private and enjoyed the benefits.. it's very difficult to take it away from them..

So no matter how much we talked, the transport companies will never be nationalized once again.

so we can only chalk up post counts here.. and do nothing constructive..

[Daddy D]

limlim:

so we can only chalk up post counts here.. and do nothing constructive..

That's the purpose of being in forums, isn't it? :razz:
What we do outside the forum is another matter...

Just like Giam and Lui... rebutt each other through media only... also nothing constructive.

[WeiHan]

Many public utilities have actually been privatised.


Like Singapore Power. Anyone complain about the high electrical bill? Actually, it is believed that some services are better off privatised. That is why Telecom was liberalised too…remember? not just public transport.

[corneyAmber]

WeiHan:

Many public utilities have actually been privatised.


Like Singapore Power. Anyone complain about the high electrical bill? Actually, it is believed that some services are better off privatised. That is why Telecom was liberalised too....remember? not just public transport.

Yes people did complain about the electrical bill but is there anything that can be done? In the end, people find ways to use less...so to me that is a good outcome for being more environmentally friendly, that's about it.

[snowman.022851697]

I dunno how many times I’ve said this. Improvements to the Mrt sytrm takes a long time… As for frequency of bus services the reason being bus drivers don’t adhere to their schedule for sone reason!!! Our service leaders have meager salaries and long working hours… That is one thing I will like to see improved. Had a chat with some drivers, thy complain about their working conditions… Especially one driving sv 961. Their timetable is so bloody tight they can barely keep up, leading to irregular frequencies. At least they could use the fare raise toINCREASE the drivers salary thus attracting local ppl whom u claim are better than foreigners. That is my current frustrations of the system now. The crowder trains are common in all parts of the world, s’pore’s system is old… Trains have to be able to run on these systems, and again the signal system is so complex it will take 9 years to revamp it. As for profits, u all sound like u want the system to be loss-making don’t u.

[WeiHan]

They thought the more money losing businesses there are, the better off they will be.

[tankee]

since when anyone said about wanting any company to be \"loss-making\" ? :?

[WeiHan]

tankee:

since when anyone said about wanting any company to be \"loss-making\" ? :?

There is an implicit yearning of subsidies for the services they receive. They believe these services can be run as non-profit organisations and still be as cost effective as ever. The first response is if it is possible, then show me. I would say that if we follow the same reasoning, then shouldn't we argue for the nationalisation of almost all businesses and services? Then all the needy people will get cheaper food, clothings, transport etc etc etc....

[Strparent]

Hi Snowboy,


if my DS has a Sec1 project to do on public transport, I would want him to be in your team :evil: . I am seriously impressed with your efforts to understand the SMRT system.

I too have an aunt who works as a bus driver, and it's true about the timetable. She is not complaining about the pay though, because she sees many of her working class peers struggling to get a job paying near what she is getting after 30 yrs as a driver.

But my personal point again, it is not about making profits or losses ( hopefully not ), but it is the timing to propose another rise in the fares, after another year of 9 digit nett profits. This is on top of the $313.6m spent on staff cost alone, and all other operating cost and expenses.

and I do not agree that the service leaders for the transport companies have meager salaries.....but then I am sure someone else will say it's relative again

article from Straits Times below as linked by Limlim earlier

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