Give citizens priority in Primary 1 registration
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cafelatte:
Oh like that can ask CKS to have a KSP Parliament to debate on it. How many seats available?I look at it from government's point of view. We accept that we need the PRs so their children's education is one \"carrot\" that government has to dangle infront of the PRs. Secondly, if the children are educated here, there's higher chance they will be more rooted and likely to take up citizenship. To be honest, many citizens also uprooted and left Singapore, right ? If it is difficult to get into a reasonably-ok school here, Singapore will be less attractive to potential PRs.
I'll vote for the exclude PRs from phase 2B option - that way, both sides give & take a little. -
cafelatte:
...We accept that we need the PRs so their children's education is one \"carrot\" that government has to dangle infront of the PRs.
So, while PRs have the right to believe that some schools are better than the others, Singaporeans have no choice but to accept that \"all schools are the same\", especially when their children have been balloted out? :?cafelatte:
....only if the children need not go through NS?Secondly, if the children are educated here, there's higher chance they will be more rooted and likely to take up citizenship.
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IMO, the real issues are;
1) How we use home-school distnace in allocating priority (the bigger problem, IMO), and
2) How are the incentives/disincentives for PRs to commit to become Singaporeans pitched.
Perhaps the question of whether PRs should have equal priority at Phase 2C is a tactic to be employed in point 2) is a pertinent one, but this Phase 2C priority issue is frankly otherwise a sideshow. Of course all families desire to locate their child in a school that is reputable and close to home, PR or not.
P.S. I have done my NS and am contributing 3 XYs to the future defence of the nation
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2nd generation PRs need to serve NS so their kids and our kids are sort of on equal stand on this point. We do have families who give up citizenship and move to another country because of NS too. Yes, the PRs may not stay…the citizens may not stay too. If you are the government, you just got to try your best to make your citizens happy(tough challenge) and yet not penalise the PRs too much
Let say we don’t have many ‘foreign talents’…our birth rates are impressive…and our children are balloted out of our ‘choice’ school. No PRs to blame then…we’ll accept that it is due to competition ? It is exactly the same situation now…competition. So do we penalise the PR parents in this mad race to get to a "good school" ? Would you consider moving to Australia if the Australian government has a policy that your children will only go to schools that has vacancies after Australian citizens had their pick ?
I’ll say our government can tip the scale a little - maybe in phase 2B. However, even then, I am sure there’ll be Singapore parents who’ll question why as citizens they need to put in PV hours in order to have better chance to get into a ‘choice’ school. -
titank:
one good example would be Jet Li 李连杰.. who knows \"Kung Fu\" and obtained Citizenship easily.\"Foreign Talent\"?? Can anyone tell me how to define Foreign Talent?
I search disctionary also cannot find this word. :?
have you wonder which school will his kids ended up at? I bet all will be placed in the Top school.. -
titank:
Foreign talent is anyone with specialised skills and adds value to the economy of a foreign country.\"Foreign Talent\"?? Can anyone tell me how to define Foreign Talent?
I search disctionary also cannot find this word. :?
My definition is that I perceive a harmonious society flourishing with foreign and local talents . There will be neither segregation nor discrimination towards either side; instead there will be free flow of ideas as well as sharing of experiences among both sides leading to economic, technological, social and cultural advancements. We will soon be home to the hordes of talents in the region and possibly, the world. -
KS_me:
cough kopi cough cough money cough
one good example would be Jet Li 李连杰.. who knows \"Kung Fu\" and obtained Citizenship easily.titank:
\"Foreign Talent\"?? Can anyone tell me how to define Foreign Talent?
I search disctionary also cannot find this word. :?
have you wonder which school will his kids ended up at? I bet all will be placed in the Top school..
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What a funny ghost!
Wuakakakaa! :lol: -
i think a quota on pr is good. so that our kids actually get to know non-singaporeans and realise that the whole world does not spin around singapore. but yet they won't get crowded out by non-singaporeans as what is the point of being citizen and yet can't get into a national school as it is filled with non-citizens, altho they pay higher fees.
that's how some western unis feel anyway. asians flying there and taking up spaces and paying higher fees while proving stiff rivalry academically to the locals, so a quota is a good balance for them as well. WHAT is the quota is the mystery. :? -
buds:
ghost month coming. i power up!What a funny ghost!
Wuakakakaa! :lol:
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