Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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zeemimi:
nothing is fair until the 'whiners' got their way in. period.Jav:
Someone mentioned in the '2011 P1 registration exercise for 2012 in take' that primary registration system used to be based on queue system. I wonder what prompted gahmen to change to current policy and how long has the current policy been.
becos rich ones can get their maids to queue for them. or ask maids to look after kids while parents queue. those not rich ones cannot. papa and mummy must work. so queuing system is still not fair for every one.
i am very drunk too -
I know it is difficult to change such an entrenched system. I am aware that many parents have made long term plans based on this system. But really, something is not right for a child who stay 5 minutes from the school to have to go to another Primary school further away while another child who for some other reason was able to get a place in the school but have to travel by bus everyday. Isnβt it such a waste of resources?
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:goodpost: Well said!!!!! :imcool: CayennePepper!
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MummyThreeStreams, dorisp, buds... Ahahahahaha, I'm just super high that's why anyhow type my random thoughts...
verykiasu2010... Gan-bei!
buds... I want to say... Your avatar made me spill my drink... Laughed too hard...
:snooze: Good night everyone...or morning, rather.... -
CayennePepper:
CayennePepper,Interesting... I've been following P1 registration for 8 years. This is the first year that I observe alumni becoming firing targets.
Those who don't qualify for phase2A at the POPULAR schools complain that alumni take up too many vacancies. Mind you, this year there are only 4 schools on the entire island with zero phase 2A take-up. So are most disgruntled folks upset with every single parent who register as ex-student in the hundreds of schools? Or just those who register at the 'hot' schools in droves and decrease the vacancies for the hopefuls at later phases? I rather think a lot of the chatter is by those with vested interest... along the line of 'look at all these alumni who dare-dare register at MY chosen (popular) school! Take up so many spots! What's left for me???'
I don't hear much rumbling about alumni take-up at the less popular schools. Why? :? Cos there're enough seats left for the rest? Let's say the
popular school increase their intake, will you still protest at the existence of 2A? Nobody's complaining about CHS this year, right?
Some PVs complain they have to work so hard to get priority at registration, compared to alumni who just waltz in.
But, just to be fair, I must note that they also complain about grassroot leaders who can pick any school in the area they serve.
And clan members whom they perceive as having an easier time, just join, pay the fees for enough years, and voila!-qualify for 2B!
Don't forget church members. What? You're entitled to priority just because you go to church?? So easy! Whereas I have to SLOG, you know!
I'm sorry to say this, but in my current state (I'm a little drunk :oops:), a lot of the dissatisfied complaints sound like whining to me. It's like saying, I'm buay-song you have an advantage I don't enjoy... Take away the advantage because it's not fair FOR ME. You don't have to work to get in the school that is 500 metres away from my house. Stay at Ubin also can
get in!!! I am MORE entitled! Than you! Who did nothing for the school!
Hey, how about this, maybe the qualifying criteria for 2A should be: for those who have studied at the school of choice AND obtained a PSLE score of 270 and above! Good enough as contribution to said school? After all, if
not for those who did so well, would these schools become so desired by parents who want to give their offspring a so-called 'head start in life', whatever that means...
I want to get started on ranting about the tirade against PRs (after blaming alumni for not leaving enough vacancies, let's find another group to blame. Cos i really, really, deserve that spot more than you, you and you...) But i guess i've, very likely, offended many people here already.
Apologies in advance if i've seriously offended anyone. I was really just thinking hard about the unhappines felt by so many this year. Somehow my thoughts just drifted into frustration territory when i keep reading posts directed against every other soul who enjoys higher priority in the p1 registration game... :skeptical:
Er, I do understand where some of you are coming from when you voice out your thoughts about the current system and the changes you feel would benefit all (but how to please everyone huh). It's the whiners I can't abide. Drunk already, so chicken... Must write in tiny font... Ohhhhh, DH waiting for me in... :siam:
I think we should also ask ourselves why some \"kiasu\" parents' \"whining\", justified or otherwise, became louder and louder especially in the last 2 to 3 years ? Why their chances for the more popular schools are dwindling by the years ? Why the authorities, until as recent as last year, had to tweak the balloting system by giving an additional chance to S'pore Citizens which some feel is still not enough done ? ... Why ? .... is there a correlation to all things happening around us that is clearly taxing our infrastructures and facilities ? WHY ?
The cutting of classes to go single session could be the other reason that is causing supply of places in certain schools to be reduced while the demand is still strong and growing thus adding even more to their woes... so we can't really say the parents concerned by coming up with ideas and suggestions on how to increase the supply side of the equation are whining...
I would like to take this opporunity and quote KiasuParents.com \"About Us\" introduction, 2nd to 4th paragraph. At the end of day, I think common sense will prevail and those parents who did not get to see their wishes come true this year will surely pack up their old kit bag and move on with life ... let us not chastise them for voicing out their inner most desires but instead let their voices be heard through KiasuParents.com which is a reckon force by itself...
(Quote \"About Us\" KiasuParents.com) http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/why-kiasuparentscom
\" We are quick to ridicule other parents as kiasu (ζθΎ) when we see them blatantly trying to get the best for their kids. Indeed, at one extreme, we have horror stories about how aunties bullied small children into surrendering front seats for their own children on the first day of school. Yet, there are things that we do ourselves that other parents might deem as kiasu.
Is being kiasu really bad?
The fact is, most parents are naturally kiasu to varying degrees, and we do it because we care. So our focus should not be on whether parents are kiasu or not. What is much more important is our parenting style. Are we uninvolved, indulgent, authoritarian or authoritative parents? Parenting style has a permanent impact on how our children are shaped as they become adults themselves.
Here at KiasuParents.com, our mission is to debunk the notion that being kiasu is bad to begin with. Instead of being furtive about it, we will be proactive when it comes to trying to look for that external help that can give our children the extra edge as they grow up. We want to celebrate the kiasu parents who successfully adopt authoritative practices that achieve their goal of giving their best to their dearests. The literal meaing of kiasu is \"to be afraid of losing out\", which also translates to: \"to want to win\". There is nothing wrong with wanting the best for our children; the question is how it is achieved. Kiasu becomes derogatory only when we attempt to win at all costs, igoring common sense and basic human decency. \"γ(UnQuote) -
JR:
I know it is difficult to change such an entrenched system. I am aware that many parents have made long term plans based on this system. But really, something is not right for a child who stay 5 minutes from the school to have to go to another Primary school further away while another child who for some other reason was able to get a place in the school but have to travel by bus everyday. Isn't it such a waste of resources?
why is distance a problem? to some pp, it is. but to some, it isnt.
why am i penalised just because i am not staying near to the my choice school? -
For something that is too old, may no longer applicable to this modern era. Change is good & hope for the better. We can only rattle here at kiasuparent & the power to change lies on the policy maker after their assessment. Only the wise can see the beyond!
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I know bricks will start flying when I say thisβ¦but Phase 1-2C should be reserved ONLY for Singaporeans. If PRs want to enjoy the same priority, they should convert. There must be a distinctive advantage for Singaporean parents and kids.
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CayennePepper:
CayennePepper, you made my day. :rotflmao:Interesting... I've been following P1 registration for 8 years. This is the first year that I observe alumni becoming firing targets.
Those who don't qualify for phase2A at the POPULAR schools complain that alumni take up too many vacancies. Mind you, this year there are only 4 schools on the entire island with zero phase 2A take-up. So are most disgruntled folks upset with every single parent who register as ex-student in the hundreds of schools? Or just those who register at the 'hot' schools in droves and decrease the vacancies for the hopefuls at later phases? I rather think a lot of the chatter is by those with vested interest... along the line of 'look at all these alumni who dare-dare register at MY chosen (popular) school! Take up so many spots! What's left for me???'
I don't hear much rumbling about alumni take-up at the less popular schools. Why? :? Cos there're enough seats left for the rest? Let's say the
popular school increase their intake, will you still protest at the existence of 2A? Nobody's complaining about CHS this year, right?
Some PVs complain they have to work so hard to get priority at registration, compared to alumni who just waltz in.
But, just to be fair, I must note that they also complain about grassroot leaders who can pick any school in the area they serve.
And clan members whom they perceive as having an easier time, just join, pay the fees for enough years, and voila!-qualify for 2B!
Don't forget church members. What? You're entitled to priority just because you go to church?? So easy! Whereas I have to SLOG, you know!
I'm sorry to say this, but in my current state (I'm a little drunk :oops:), a lot of the dissatisfied complaints sound like whining to me. It's like saying, I'm buay-song you have an advantage I don't enjoy... Take away the advantage because it's not fair FOR ME. You don't have to work to get in the school that is 500 metres away from my house. Stay at Ubin also can
get in!!! I am MORE entitled! Than you! Who did nothing for the school!
Hey, how about this, maybe the qualifying criteria for 2A should be: for those who have studied at the school of choice AND obtained a PSLE score of 270 and above! Good enough as contribution to said school? After all, if
not for those who did so well, would these schools become so desired by parents who want to give their offspring a so-called 'head start in life', whatever that means...
I want to get started on ranting about the tirade against PRs (after blaming alumni for not leaving enough vacancies, let's find another group to blame. Cos i really, really, deserve that spot more than you, you and you...) But i guess i've, very likely, offended many people here already.
Apologies in advance if i've seriously offended anyone. I was really just thinking hard about the unhappines felt by so many this year. Somehow my thoughts just drifted into frustration territory when i keep reading posts directed against every other soul who enjoys higher priority in the p1 registration game... :skeptical:
Er, I do understand where some of you are coming from when you voice out your thoughts about the current system and the changes you feel would benefit all (but how to please everyone huh). It's the whiners I can't abide. Drunk already, so chicken... Must write in tiny font... Ohhhhh, DH waiting for me in... :siam: -
JGMum:
CayennePepper, Getting to the crux of the matter - so simply
CayennePepper, you made my day. :rotflmao:CayennePepper:
Interesting... I've been following P1 registration for 8 years. This is the first year that I observe alumni becoming firing targets.
Those who don't qualify for phase2A at the POPULAR schools complain that alumni take up too many vacancies. Mind you, this year there are only 4 schools on the entire island with zero phase 2A take-up. So are most disgruntled folks upset with every single parent who register as ex-student in the hundreds of schools? Or just those who register at the 'hot' schools in droves and decrease the vacancies for the hopefuls at later phases? I rather think a lot of the chatter is by those with vested interest... along the line of 'look at all these alumni who dare-dare register at MY chosen (popular) school! Take up so many spots! What's left for me???'
I don't hear much rumbling about alumni take-up at the less popular schools. Why? :? Cos there're enough seats left for the rest? Let's say the
popular school increase their intake, will you still protest at the existence of 2A? Nobody's complaining about CHS this year, right?
Some PVs complain they have to work so hard to get priority at registration, compared to alumni who just waltz in.
But, just to be fair, I must note that they also complain about grassroot leaders who can pick any school in the area they serve.
And clan members whom they perceive as having an easier time, just join, pay the fees for enough years, and voila!-qualify for 2B!
Don't forget church members. What? You're entitled to priority just because you go to church?? So easy! Whereas I have to SLOG, you know!
I'm sorry to say this, but in my current state (I'm a little drunk :oops:), a lot of the dissatisfied complaints sound like whining to me. It's like saying, I'm buay-song you have an advantage I don't enjoy... Take away the advantage because it's not fair FOR ME. You don't have to work to get in the school that is 500 metres away from my house. Stay at Ubin also can
get in!!! I am MORE entitled! Than you! Who did nothing for the school!
Hey, how about this, maybe the qualifying criteria for 2A should be: for those who have studied at the school of choice AND obtained a PSLE score of 270 and above! Good enough as contribution to said school? After all, if
not for those who did so well, would these schools become so desired by parents who want to give their offspring a so-called 'head start in life', whatever that means...
I want to get started on ranting about the tirade against PRs (after blaming alumni for not leaving enough vacancies, let's find another group to blame. Cos i really, really, deserve that spot more than you, you and you...) But i guess i've, very likely, offended many people here already.
Apologies in advance if i've seriously offended anyone. I was really just thinking hard about the unhappines felt by so many this year. Somehow my thoughts just drifted into frustration territory when i keep reading posts directed against every other soul who enjoys higher priority in the p1 registration game... :skeptical:
Er, I do understand where some of you are coming from when you voice out your thoughts about the current system and the changes you feel would benefit all (but how to please everyone huh). It's the whiners I can't abide. Drunk already, so chicken... Must write in tiny font... Ohhhhh, DH waiting for me in... :siam:
Glad to read this post first on a Monday morning :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
PS: Can you get drunk more often and post
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