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    Presidential Election 2011

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      Angelight
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      I think if all 4 are contesting, hard for one to get more than 50% vote. Then again, it’s hard to say cos election is difficult to predict…

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        tankee
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        Nebbermind:
        TCB had gained some from the Patrick Tan saga...but think not enough.


        i did not follow :oops:

        what's the conclusion on the Patrick Tan's case?

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          Edureach
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          Angelight:
          I think if all 4 are contesting, hard for one to get more than 50% vote. Then again, it's hard to say cos election is difficult to predict...

          The race is tighter than you expect. The winner is likely to return with less than 45% of valid votes.

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            Way2GO
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            What a clever move by the ruling party to keep it all within the inner circle by issuing COE to 4 EP candidates.

            The PAP endorsed candidate will win in a 4 corner fight when the ‘oppo’ votes for the other 3 candidates are diluted amongst themselves.

            The EP campaign would become more interesting if the other 3 TANs realign themselves to a common cause of serving the people first and foremost. 2 of the TANs should withdraw their candidacy and throw their support behind TCB or TJS standing one-to-one with TT.

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              3Boys
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              Edureach:
              Angelight:

              I think if all 4 are contesting, hard for one to get more than 50% vote. Then again, it's hard to say cos election is difficult to predict...


              The race is tighter than you expect. The winner is likely to return with less than 45% of valid votes.

              Not a very optimal situation actually, and probably one not foreseen by the guys who cobbled this together. Some countries will have a run-off between the two best candidates if no-one had claimed the majority in a multi-party contest.

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                3Boys
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                Way2GO:
                What a clever move by the ruling party to keep it all within the inner circle by issuing COE to 4 EP candidates.

                The PAP endorsed candidate will win in a 4 corner fight when the 'oppo' votes for the other 3 candidates are diluted amongst themselves.

                The EP campaign would become more interesting if the other 3 TANs realign themselves to a common cause of serving the people first and foremost. 2 of the TANs should withdraw their candidacy and throw their support behind TCB or TJS standing one-to-one with TT.
                I don't agree its a strategic move at all. This is a situation where it's no-win for the PEC. If they just picked TCB and TT, they will be criticised for being PAP centric. If they pick TT, TJS and TCB, they will be criticised for choosing those affiliated to political parties. Now that they have chosen 4, people say they are biased towards Tans only, or 'dilute' the anti-establishment vote.

                What would be your 'ideal' scenario? Remember, they are not there to play a political role, the PEC is just a screen for suitable candidates. If there were 10 suitable candidates, they would all expect to be selected.

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                  verykiasu2010
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                  securing a COE is of long term benefit, even the candidate may lose this round


                  come next presidential election, the PEC is unlikely to reject, and will most likely re-issue and new COE, unless the guy does not know how to conduct himself in between the the 2 pres elections

                  some more they are all Tan - all can Tan, Tan ku ku and may just win one round

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                    3Boys
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                    verykiasu2010:

                    come next presidential election, the PEC is unlikely to reject, and will most likely re-issue and new COE, unless the guy does not know how to conduct himself in between the the 2 pres elections

                    some more they are all Tan - all can Tan, Tan ku ku and may just win one round
                    You are right. Whoever wins this round will need to serve in office in a manner that will also win him the popular vote the next term. This is unlike any previous situation served by an incumbent. President not a voice of the people? Just you wait, the political realities will make it so.

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                      Musings
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                      [quote]securing a COE is of long term benefit, even the candidate may lose this round


                      come next presidential election, the PEC is unlikely to reject, and will most likely re-issue and new COE, unless the guy does not know how to conduct himself in between the the 2 pres elections

                      some more they are all Tan - all can Tan, Tan ku ku and may just win one round
                      [/quote]If you think about it, the person who benefits most from this whole exercise whether he wins or not is Tan Jee Say. Through getting the PEC cert, he would have earned credibility in the eyes of public and through running in this Presidential campaign, he would have raised his profile - making it much easier when he runs for the next General Elections which is his real target.

                      A very clever political move but genuine desire to serve? hmmmm

                      If he really wants to serve the people, I think he should run and win a seat as MP where he can do something for the people. Like it or not, the President is largely a ceremonial figure just like the Queen of England. The President now has custodial powers under the constitution but this does not mean executive powers to make policy - period.

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                        Way2GO
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                        3Boys:


                        I don't agree its a strategic move at all. This is a situation where it's no-win for the PEC. If they just picked TCB and TT, they will be criticised for being PAP centric. If they pick TT, TJS and TCB, they will be criticised for choosing those affiliated to political parties. Now that they have chosen 4, people say they are biased towards Tans only, or 'dilute' the anti-establishment vote.

                        What would be your 'ideal' scenario? Remember, they are not there to play a political role, the PEC is just a screen for suitable candidates. If there were 10 suitable candidates, they would all expect to be selected.
                        Agreed there will be adverse comments no matter how/who the PEC clears for COE.
                        Why? Just like the Election Dept under the PMO, ppl are sceptical that it is truly politically independent.

                        My preferred situation would be for TBL and TJS to publicly give their support to TCB in a two horse race against TT.
                        A 11 – 12% shift in voting pattern from recent GE should be sufficient to win it for TCB.
                        It’s possible but still tough against the well oiled PAP machinery behind TT.
                        It will be a lost cause for the other 3 TANs in a 4 corner fight from dilution of vote share.

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