新加坡人满口错误, 何时会改善？ 快了! 大家快加油, 面对挑战!

[empressplace]

Wu MaMa:

Oh antebellum... I forgot to thank you for making those fair statement. There is high possibility to have lengthy criticize on me... could go really nasty and bad. I will not be angry, it is just a reflection of various type of mindset we have here to contribute to our society. .

The criticism was on General99all, not on Wu MaMa. So Wu MaMa= General99all?

[corneyAmber]

General99all:

Last Thur, 9.58fm 4.15pm talked about building confident in children and reduce \"错败感”。 I personally felt that if the child has been speaking using correct grammar and phrases from young, this has helped the child to be more confident than some who don't.

Have anyone ever wonder... Every morning i wake my child and say \"...快上学了\",\"爸妈也来不急上班了\"。But each time, we bump into neighbours(with their kids) in the lift or void deck, you won't hear people using the phrases I did. I was wondering, where does the \"读书\" come from? If it was from English, people here don't \"say go to study\", they say \"go to School\" but the mandarin part \"学校\"has not been widely used. But the \"做工\" and the English version of \"going off to work\" matches. Why?
Yah, i am also puzzle with \"做工＂and \"工作\", why the 2 ＂zuo\" is of different character.

\"做工＂ is for verb and \"工作\" is for noun...eg. 作业 not 做业, 作文 not 做文

[Mdm Koh]

General99all:

Last Thur, 9.58fm 4.15pm talked about building confident in children and reduce \"错败感”。 I personally felt that if the child has been speaking using correct grammar and phrases from young, this has helped the child to be more confident than some who don't.

Have anyone ever wonder... Every morning i wake my child and say \"...快上学了\",\"爸妈也来不急上班了\"。But each time, we bump into neighbours(with their kids) in the lift or void deck, you won't hear people using the phrases I did. I was wondering, where does the \"读书\" come from? If it was from English, people here don't \"say go to study\", they say \"go to School\" but the mandarin part \"学校\"has not been widely used. But the \"做工\" and the English version of \"going off to work\" matches. Why?
Yah, i am also puzzle with \"做工＂and \"工作\", why the 2 ＂zuo\" is of different character.

I think 读书 comes from the dialects. Hokkien: tak chayk; Teochew: tak zi.

For more info on the different uses of 做 vs 作, you can look at the character definitions online.

http://xh.5156edu.com/html3/3120.html

http://xh.5156edu.com/html3/2859.html

[General99all]

Wu MaMa is my ex-neighbour. She visited me and log in with my laptop and forgot to log out. That’s made my later post showed under her name. She the only friend who back me up while my other friends don’t.


In fact I was inspired by her. That was many years back when I first heard her child calling “妈咪”, instantly I said “Very accurate and sound very nice”. That’s also make me want to set my child’s path for learning the correct things right from the beginning. If I didn’t accept her views years back. My child today will not be also calling me with the correct pronunciation. That is when I appreciate her value and become the next person pursuing correct pronunciation.
The problem her child is facing today is what mine going to suffer in few years time if there isn’t enough educated parent who supported going back to the original correct pronunciation.
It has been years and when my new born arrived, the situation didn’t improve… Now is my turn to feel the frustration myself and experience it… this turned me to started this topic.

Give your child(6 to 10years old) a simple hanyu pinying test and understand the score.
爸爸，妈妈，哥哥，姐姐，弟弟，妹妹。If the child scored 100%, does the child ever wonder why must they prounciating them differently in practice? If the child scored poorly and not convinced that all these years they pronounced them wrongly… That is why I didn’t want to lay this trap and looked stupid.
Can’t educate children this way and on the other hand promoting those mistakes.
A Chinese teacher(China National)in my child’s childcare shared with me that she found some Singaporean Chinese Teacher uncertain about their pronunciation and some textbook with such mistakes are not been pointed out. If she says this to a wrong person, the parent could fight back turned unhappy. I would sized the opportunity to learn more so that someday if there is a miss-marking, I could tell. I hope this is inspiring enough to motivate more people and perhaps it would be better in 2 years time.

Same goes to promoting English and demoting Singlish. Singlish has lots of short cut which make kids missed many polite words. “Eat Faster!”… instead of “Please hurry up” for many years, many kids felt uneasy when trying to be polite. They are not used to start with “Could you… Do you… Will you help…”. I felt that developing the child personality starts from young(at home). Although at higher academic level, they could score well, they are just natural having difficulties in saying things politely.

[General99all]

Thanks pal.

"做工, 作业 and 作文. Ok. Got it.

Sometimes for hanyu pinying, I is hard to know when there is a "h" and "g".
like ci or chi, zi or zhi, hard to remembers which sets of words with the "h" and which do not.
Same like zhan or zhang…etc. how to remember both sets of words.
Any tips…

[mylulaoshi]

General99all:

Thanks pal.

\"做工, 作业 and 作文. Ok. Got it.

Sometimes for hanyu pinying, I is hard to know when there is a \"h\" and \"g\".
like ci or chi, zi or zhi, hard to remembers which sets of words with the \"h\" and which do not.
Same like zhan or zhang..etc. how to remember both sets of words.
Any tips...

Ears have to be exposed to accurate pronunciation via radio, news, China TV. Our local standard Chinese is adapted from Beijing. Local TV hosts some from Malaysia, Taiwan their pronunciation may be compromised at times. No hard and fuss rule. I myself have to research for several years to collate 'Disturbing Pinyin' which is commonly mis-pronounced just to deliver to my students in 1hr. Mediacorp artistes welcome to attend Lu Laoshi lessons to brush up your TV pronunciation~！

[mylulaoshi]

General99all:

Yes. \"抄送\"， hear many people talking to their china supplier \"请放我进去”or \"放我在里面”。 I think \"请在来往的邮件中，抄送给我。\" is also correct.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[jetsetter]

mylulaoshi:

General99all:

Thanks pal.

\"做工, 作业 and 作文. Ok. Got it.

Sometimes for hanyu pinying, I is hard to know when there is a \"h\" and \"g\".
like ci or chi, zi or zhi, hard to remembers which sets of words with the \"h\" and which do not.
Same like zhan or zhang..etc. how to remember both sets of words.
Any tips...

Ears have to be exposed to accurate pronunciation via radio, news, China TV. Our local standard Chinese is adapted from Beijing. Local TV hosts some from Malaysia, Taiwan their pronunciation may be compromised at times. No hard and fuss rule. I myself have to research for several years to collate 'Disturbing Pinyin' which is commonly mis-pronounced just to deliver to my students in 1hr. Mediacorp artistes welcome to attend Lu Laoshi lessons to brush up your TV pronunciation~！

Local djs don't pronounce the zh/ch/sh and ng sometimes. Every morning, I've bear with all the mispronunciations by 1 female dj on Capitol 95.8.

[mylulaoshi]

jetsetter:

Local djs don't pronounce the zh/ch/sh and ng sometimes. Every morning, I've bear with all the mispronunciations by 1 female dj on Capitol 95.8.

现在的人连讲话都难。能当DJ的，已经很好了。我在公共场所多教孩子两句，说话大声清楚一点，旁人就瞪眼了。

[lnjason888]

为何瞪眼