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    Presidential Election 2011

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    • H Offline
      hquek
      last edited by

      The thing about endorsements…it’s only from top pp that endorse, what the rank and file does (aka the majority) is up to them. and during GE, pp will vote carefully becos the management of their towns will be affected (some pp want upgrading etc etc). But PE could be a different kettle of fish.


      i can’t predict. not great with numbers. Just gut feel only.

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        Way2GO
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        caroline3sg:
        I have slight difference in analysis on the 60%-40% splitting into 4 candidates.


        The 40% hard core pro opp would vote for TJS (probably 3/4 of votes).

        Substantial chunk of 60% (living in the west, where quality of opp candidates for GE are not comparable to WP) voted opp to bring down PAP %. This group would vote TJS.

        Hence it is TT 30%, TCB 30%, TJS 30% & TKL 10%. We shall see how much % points shift amongst the 3 candidates.

        I believe forumers here don't mind whether TCB or TJS win, as long as not TT.

        If TT wins, then really S'pore 完蛋了. Taxi drivers will continue driving till 75 yrs, goal post of CPF withdrawal will further shift backwards and don't need to hope CPF employer contribution will hit 20%.

        PS. I am not figures oriented. Just guts feel.
        First I must qualify dat d 60% - 40% I used was just a rough guide
        for convenient n common reference.
        PAP hardcore supporters likely number less than 60%.
        This is not d GE – there r no handouts to sweeten d ground to sway some swing voters.
        Neither do I think there is 40% hard core oppo supporters.

        Whoever wins is not going to change anything concrete under d current Constitution.
        However, IMV, if someone other than TT wins, it’s a moral victory to strengthen d msg of GE2011 n keep d ruling party on its toes.

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          concern2
          last edited by

          Strparent:
          puff:

          If u still cannot decide who to vote ... Maybe a simplify version will help u 😄

          Who would you put in a room to watch your kid to make sure he do his homework properly?

          1) his best friend
          2) the teacher that he don't like
          3) grandfather that he knows he can easily convince him not to tell u if he misbehave
          4) A uncle that your kid think he can step over
          :evil:

          Puff :hi5: ,

          good analogy indeed.

          much like what Basil Hwang spoke about below, about looking after a classroom - you cannot appoint your friend, even a monitor - you need an independent separate individual.

          He gave the analogy at around the 6.35min point..... the rest of his speech was not bad either

          Thanks for sharing! All these elections are carving out new prospects for the young and motivated!

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            growie
            last edited by

            Way2GO:
            caroline3sg:

            I have slight difference in analysis on the 60%-40% splitting into 4 candidates.


            The 40% hard core pro opp would vote for TJS (probably 3/4 of votes).

            Substantial chunk of 60% (living in the west, where quality of opp candidates for GE are not comparable to WP) voted opp to bring down PAP %. This group would vote TJS.

            Hence it is TT 30%, TCB 30%, TJS 30% & TKL 10%. We shall see how much % points shift amongst the 3 candidates.

            I believe forumers here don't mind whether TCB or TJS win, as long as not TT.

            If TT wins, then really S'pore 完蛋了. Taxi drivers will continue driving till 75 yrs, goal post of CPF withdrawal will further shift backwards and don't need to hope CPF employer contribution will hit 20%.

            PS. I am not figures oriented. Just guts feel.

            First I must qualify dat d 60% - 40% I used was just a rough guide
            for convenient n common reference.
            PAP hardcore supporters likely number less than 60%.
            This is not d GE – there r no handouts to sweeten d ground to sway some swing voters.
            Neither do I think there is 40% hard core oppo supporters.

            Whoever wins is not going to change anything concrete under d current Constitution.
            However, IMV, if someone other than TT wins, it’s a moral victory to strengthen d msg of GE2011 n keep d ruling party on its toes.


            :goodpost: Very true.. :xedfingers:

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              kiddo
              last edited by

              growie:
              Way2GO:

              Whoever wins is not going to change anything concrete under d current Constitution.

              However, IMV, if someone other than TT wins, it’s a moral victory to strengthen d msg of GE2011 n keep d ruling party on its toes.


              :goodpost: Very true.. :xedfingers:

              :hi5: Let's hope :xedfingers:

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                limlim
                last edited by

                Way2GO:

                He was d first to throw in his hat n was probably banking on d 40% who voted
                against d PAP to support him in his bid. Even against TT in a one-to-one
                scenario, he stood a real good chance of getting elected.
                I still believe it is Plan A, Plan B.. Althou not sure actually which is plan A, which is plan B....

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                  Strparent
                  last edited by

                  limlim,


                  Plan A is the sAy guy

                  Plan B is the Bock guy

                  Plan L is our outsider Last hope.

                  Plan Y means Yup, we're screwed as far as our reserves are concerned, for the next 6 years.

                  http://i53.tinypic.com/o79169.jpg\">

                  cartoon picture from http://sg-quitters.blogspot.com/

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                    Way2GO
                    last edited by

                    limlim:


                    I still believe it is Plan A, Plan B.. Althou not sure actually which is plan A, which is plan B....
                    I don't agree TCB n TT was Plan A & Plan B.
                    IMV, d sequence of events doesn't add up to dat conclusion.
                    In dat scenario, PEC could just award d COE only to TT n TBC to run,
                    n dat would give d assured result wanted.
                    I think it's d very reason why PAP feared a TBC win in a one-to-one with TT
                    dat TJS n TKL were allowed into d fray to dilute d votes to give TT d advantage.

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                      sleepy
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                      Way2GO:
                      I think it's d very reason why PAP feared a TBC win in a one-to-one with TT

                      dat TJS n TKL were allowed into d fray to dilute d votes to give TT d advantage.
                      Yaloh, thought so too.

                      Mention earlier my guess is TT only needs to garner 30+ % to win, due to the nature of 4 corners fight. Those who are not so pro MIW or prefer a check would vote for one of the other three candidates which means votes will be diluted among the other three candidates. Unless TCB managed to garner a substantial % away from the other 2

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                        Angelight
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                        Really excited about tomorrow’s Voting Day. Am going to use my vote wisely and vote for the most derserving man in my personal opinion.


                        Any of you staying up late tomorrow nite to watch the result? I probably will…

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