Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[IJJ]

Jennifer:

markfch:

[quote=\"Jennifer\"]
U hv another option: leave them and return to mainstream.

Initially I wanted to suggest that too - I'm sure most schs will welcome comfy's dd with open arms - but then realised that for some kids (such as my ds just as an example, not saying that he can qualify - not a sniff) their confidence level will take a hit if they are to return to mainstream. So there are other factors at play.

I agree. Such decision shld be the last resort. The child must also be involved in the decision making with lots of support from family/relatives etc.[/quote]Placing a gifted child in mainstream school, you may encounter other issues too. I will share more on this when I can breath better (nowadays, I think I am always panting :roll: ).

[comfy]

Jennifer:

comfy:

So students without prior knowledge are definitely at a disadvantage unless the student is a true math genius. Yap, unfair right, so what to do, going to outsource Math in the coming months. So if cannot beat them, join them. Only :moneyflies: Even having remedial lessons also quite useless as 'Teaching' method still the same.

U hv another option: leave them and return to mainstream.

Actually, did consider this option and suggest it to my dd quite a no of times esp. when I am stressed by the teacher's indifference & mindset. But dd doesn't want lei. So what to do, need to support her, rite? Die, die must go thru it. Not going to think too much.

[comfy]

Hey Mark, if your ds is selected… hee hee… in two years time. What will you do? You keep on saying no way,no chance… I say, what if?

[Jennifer]

comfy:

esp. when I am stressed by the teacher's indifference & mindset. But dd doesn't want lei. So what to do, need to support her, rite? Die, die must go thru it. Not going to think too much.

If it is only this particular unsupportive teacher, then to give up the prog wld be a pity. Jia you :rahrah:

[comfy]

Trapwithin:

Jennifer:

[quote=\"comfy\"]So students without prior knowledge are definitely at a disadvantage unless the student is a true math genius. Yap, unfair right, so what to do, going to outsource Math in the coming months. So if cannot beat them, join them. Only :moneyflies: Even having remedial lessons also quite useless as 'Teaching' method still the same.

U hv another option: leave them and return to mainstream.

P4 is their 1st year in the program so lots of surprises and unknown regarding cohort, teaching methodology, syllabus, etc
P5 pressure will pick up but they will be more accustom to the program.

Looking at past trends, MOE seems to have quite a good screening and selection mechanism. Kids that got into GEP 99% will manage it, with or without external help. There are already in the top 500 of Singapore.
As long as they are not in the last 1%, I assume they will be fine.[/quote]Actually, I pity the future Gep students as the standard of the projects/assignments/test/exam keep on going up. The p4 now is doing a P6 work. Even the exam qns are getting more advanced. What a P4 exam papers are like p6 std a few years ago. I think is the same for mainstream but the GEP is really tough by itself, the future even worse. But children's thinking and abilities might not progressed so fast. Maybe a few, so quite alot of definitely need to know in advance (tuition/enrichment course), so the cycle repeat itself.

[comfy]

Jennifer:

comfy:

esp. when I am stressed by the teacher's indifference & mindset. But dd doesn't want lei. So what to do, need to support her, rite? Die, die must go thru it. Not going to think too much.

If it is only this particular unsupportive teacher, then to give up the prog wld be a pity. Jia you :rahrah:

Thanks Jennifer, don't going to let this particular unsupportive, arrogant teacher affect me. Going to ignore her, just that dd will not have her next year.

[markfch]

comfy:

Hey Mark, if your ds is selected... hee hee... in two years time. What will you do? You keep on saying no way,no chance... I say, what if?

No way! You do remember that I have close access to how a truly gifted child is capable of ..... in this world there are kids with almost photographic memory. Unless this child I'm talking about is the gifted within the gifted, then my ds got a bit of chance to be just gifted. Confusing hor :evil:

Ok if you really wish to explore the 'what if' scenario. Figurative speaking, if by the luck of the dice ds gets selected, personally I still won't find the incentive for GEP that irresistable and here is my logic.

I think the majority of the kids in the top P6 class in PH should be able to get around 260 at the minimum, which will entitle them to have the pick of the top IP schs like RI/RG, HC/NY, NJ. I think it's a safe bet to assume that someone getting selected for GEP at P3 will most likely end up in the right half of the top P6 class. So this kid also doesn't really need the DSA that GEP offers. Some parents say that at least the DSA is a safety net, but if the kid is being over-stretched in an attempt by MOE to 'upgrade' the GEP standard annually, then there is a very expensive price to pay for this safety net.

This is how I feel, and no, I still don't think that it'll be my problem, hehe.

[markfch]

IJJ:

I will try to post some pics of the place over this weekends. Maybe you can get some clues from there.

Make sure the pictures contain some signs of places or something liddat, so that I don't need to crack my head so much. :scratchhead:

IJJ:

Markfch..I believe you can guess it.

For a moment I thought you wrote 'I believe you have guess it.'

[dyh]

markfch:

Am I right to assume that the main purpose of all this (substantial) preparation for MO competitions is for DSA?


The qn at the tip of my mind is, 'Would a P6 kid suffer in PSLE maths exam if he doesn't get any MO training?'

For my son, it is for exposure and hopefully DSA.

[comfy]

markfch:

comfy:

Hey Mark, if your ds is selected... hee hee... in two years time. What will you do? You keep on saying no way,no chance... I say, what if?

No way! You do remember that I have close access to how a truly gifted child is capable of ..... in this world there are kids with almost photographic memory. Unless this child I'm talking about is the gifted within the gifted, then my ds got a bit of chance to be just gifted. Confusing hor :evil:

Ok if you really wish to explore the 'what if' scenario. Figurative speaking, if by the luck of the dice ds gets selected, personally I still won't find the incentive for GEP that irresistable and here is my logic.

I think the majority of the kids in the top P6 class in PH should be able to get around 260 at the minimum, which will entitle them to have the pick of the top IP schs like RI/RG, HC/NY, NJ. I think it's a safe bet to assume that someone getting selected for GEP at P3 will most likely end up in the right half of the top P6 class. So this kid also doesn't really need the DSA that GEP offers. Some parents say that at least the DSA is a safety net, but if the kid is being over-stretched in an attempt by MOE to 'upgrade' the GEP standard annually, then there is a very expensive price to pay for this safety net.

This is how I feel, and no, I still don't think that it'll be my problem, hehe.

Does that mean 'No' to gep? :evil: Like I say, you just don't know how MOE selected GEP kids. Some of Geppers can fail Math even in P4, u know! Personally, I don't think its their fault, they must have certain std in Math, rite? else how to pass thru 2 math papers and 1 math Gat. So u know, whose fault.....