Learning Hanyu Pinyin

[miaoster]

Hi e3nity,

I have this website to learn and it follow the MOE textbook.
http://xuele.edumall.sg/xuele/slot/u107/index.html
My son loves this website very much when he was in N1/N2. Now he is K1 and he pick up Han Yu Pin Ying already. He can follow the sound accordingly.
Hope this help you.

[prata_queen]

thanks tamarind for your advice.

[jamespon]

tamarind:

Hi smurf,

There are some rules :

http://www.learnchineseeveryday.com/2009/07/25/pinyin-tutorial-change-of-tones/
In Chinese it happens that sometimes we change the Tones of certain Pinyin syllable to improve the clarity or ease pronunciation difficulties, here are some general rules:

When two 3rd tones come together, the first tone changes into the 2nd (but its tone mark remains unchanged), e.g. “你好 nǐ hǎo” (How are you) is actually pronounced as “ní hǎo”.
When a syllable in the 3rd tone precedes a syllable in the 1st, 2nd, 4th or neutral tone, it is pronounced in the half 3rd tone, that is, the tone only falls but doesn’t rise, e.g. “你们 nǐ men”.


Change of Tones of “不” and “一”
“不 bù” is pronounced in the 2nd tone (bú) when it is put before a syllable in the 4th tone or a syllable in the neutral tone developed from 4th tone, e.g. “不谢 bú xiè” (Don’t mention it), “不是 bú shì” (No, it isn’t). But “不” is still pronounced in the 4th tone (bù) when it precedes a syllable in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd tone, e.g. “不新 bù xīn” (not new), “不来 bù lái” (not come), “不好 bù hǎo” (not good).

“一 yī” is pronounced in the 2nd tone (yí) when it precedes a syllable in the 4th tone or a syllable in the neutral tone developed from the 4th tone, e.g. “一块 yí kuài” (a block/bar), “一个 yí gè” (a piece). But “一” is pronounced in the 4th tone (yì) when it precedes a syllable in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd tone, e.g. “一天 yì tiān” (a day), “一年 yì nián” (a year), “一起 yì qǐ ” (together).

Nice explanation!!

[asunnyday]

For those who have iPad, here is a small tool I thought it would be useful for your kids to learn Pinyin in a fun way:


http://itunes.apple.com/sg/app/fun-pinyin/id460776312?mt=8

Well, at least both my boys liked it and used it _for_a_while_

[sembgal]

Hi, wonder if anyone can share some tips with me on how you help your child to distinguish the four pitch by listening. Thanks.

[lee2004]

sembgal:

Hi, wonder if anyone can share some tips with me on how to help a child to distinguish the four sounds. Thanks.

read and read correctly.

[snowcloud]

[quote]Hi, wonder if anyone can share some tips with me on how to help a child to distinguish the four sounds. Thanks.[/quote]
hi,

you can explain to your child the pitch of the 4 sound is as follows:

1st sound 5 - 5
2nd sound 3 - 5
3rd sound 2-1-4
4th sound 5-1
where 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is the level of pitch

1st sound will be loud and flat since it is 5 - 5
2nd sound will be rising cos 3 -5 (can tell her to put her hand on the throat and feel the movement)
3rd sound will be down and rising again 2-1-4 (do as above, she can feel some \"pressure\" is put on the throat and then move up again)
4th sound 5 -1 hence it is very loud

hope you find it useful

[cherrygal]

In terms of teaching HYPY sounds and recognition of the sound symbols, I think Berries did a tremendous job. If you can’t teach it yourself, send your kid there for their P1 prep course (at K2). My boy learnt very quickly and was great at HYPY after that.

[GTGT]

Hi


Can anyone advise me what are the good materials for teaching Hanyu Pinyin at home ?

[sembgal]

Thank you for your tips. Actually my child has been attending Hanyu Pinyin cum Speech and Drama class when she was in K1 and that was more play-based to me.This year in K2, she has been attending a more formal and structured preparatory Hanyu Pinyin class since Term 1 Week 1. I understand that kindergartens and child care centres are not allowed to teach Hanyu Pinyin due to MOE’s advice. However, as this advice fell on deaf ears and some kindergartens and childcare centres went ahead to teach. To my understanding, if the child learns the wrong pronounciation, it may do more harm than good. So, there’s enrichment centres to tap on for outsource of Hanyu Pinyin lessons. Preschools Chinese teachers should not be blamed as they have received instructions not to teach Hanyu Pinyin from MOE. Due to this reason which parents are unaware of, very often, parents will point the finger at the preschool for not teaching Hanyu Pinyin when the child moves on to Primary 1 and cannot cope with the Hanyu Pinyin syllabus. Thus, I set very high standards for my child to get the correct answer when I gave her Listening Hanyu Pinyin test. From this, I gauge that my child is not confident when it comes to the four pitch. At least I have 1 more year to brush up Hanyu Pinyin for my child. I will be glad to hear more tips from other parents too regarding guiding the child to learn Hanyu Pinyin.