we must welcome talent from abroad to create and ...........
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3Boys:
the dead can be resurrected anytime
Don't understand why we keep beating this dead horse. -
laughingcat:
it is just a wordI usually get irritated and angry silently whenever i heard malaysian (not a PR yet) gets an admin assistant job in SGP. For instance admin assistant to a dental clinic. Come on, i don't believe no singaporean aunty or SAHM (wanting part time) to fill in this position.
Sometime this company purposely get a foreigner is because no CPF and plus the salary is lower. So let's be realistic, who does not want to pay low salary as an employer. No need to threaten singaporean about losing competitiveness if there is no foreign talent.
To me having a foreigner to fill in as admin assistant is really so much about foreign \"talent\".
Today, the use of foreign talent is too loosely interpreted. If it is truly talent, then of course i will be obliging and accept it. But a superficial \"talent\", of which i cannot accept.
it is just another foreign worker by any other terminology.....be it CEO or bus 'captain' or janitor (aka Director of Toilet Health), etc etc -
verykiasu2010:
I don't think so. Some years ago, my friend had to marry her American boyfriend to get a green card (PR status). She recently became a citizen.peapot:
Concern2, that's quite true. If the topic is always the same, that means people are still not convinced. My Myanmar colleague who is a PR told me that it was super easy to get PR. Just work for 2 years in Singapore and you are granted PR regardless of your work scope, your position, your contribution, your whatever. I wished he would wipe off that smug look. I know he is very pleased with the government here.
you don't need two years to get PR in US, Canada, OZ ...... in fact for US, whole family gets citizenship within 24 months
According to the Internet, citizenship will only be granted if the family has lived in the US for five years. If married to a US citizen, the time period will be shortened to three years. -
Hmm…
think about it…
If SGporeans dun want certain jobs, then how?
Raise the salary levels of these jobs to make it worth the SGporeans worth their time and effort…
This also creates costs, which inadvertedly gets passed on to the consumers… and creates more inflation.
IMHO, either way out, will see huge inflation coming, if not already started.
Better brace yourselves proper.
An example is that of Australia, no foreign workers, all must be PR at the minimum… their inflation can be really high, but everything else also keeps up. The upside for them is that thye have hard commodities and resources, things that SG does not have. So, in a way, we belittle ourselves to remain competitive… in that sense, "we" will accept inflation in exchange for economic growth.
On the other end of the scale, using foreigners is an easy way out… really… cos their base cost of living in SG is much lower than SGporeans who have families planted here and no where to repatriate funds or ourselves. Has anyone calculated your base cost of expenses per month? Imagine if you were alone here, or with your spouse, in SG… your base cost of expenditures would be much lower, particularly if you repatriate funds to home in another country.
To answer this question is almost impossible… to balance it is perhaps the approach taken. Outcome seems clear to me…
What about you? -
Mdm Koh:
I don't think so. My friend had to marry her American boyfriend to get a green card (PR status). According to the Internet, citizenship will only be granted if the family has lived in the US for five years. If married to a US citizen, the time period will be shortened to three years.[/quote]I know the rule you quoted. New rules have come about recently for certain criteria. They are now even proposing automatic green card for foreigners graduating in US uni in the name of attracting \"talent\" to stay in US to contribute to economic rejuvenationverykiasu2010:
[quote=\"peapot\"]Concern2, that's quite true. If the topic is always the same, that means people are still not convinced. My Myanmar colleague who is a PR told me that it was super easy to get PR. Just work for 2 years in Singapore and you are granted PR regardless of your work scope, your position, your contribution, your whatever. I wished he would wipe off that smug look. I know he is very pleased with the government here.
you don't need two years to get PR in US, Canada, OZ ...... in fact for US, whole family gets citizenship within 24 months
I have something working with one of the state governments in US -
insider:
The problem is Ah Gong must find a way to raise a tougher work force instead of the current strawberry type workers to make bosses like me more willing to employ Singaporeans...
I cannot disagree with that! :boogie: -
insider:
people who don't run biz won't know, can only be arm chair critic, or some will criticize for the sake of criticizing, not knowing what it is all aboutI have been a boss for many years.
I need teachers, cooks, cleaners, managers, and admin assts.
Given a choice, I want a 100% foreign staffing force.
It is NOTHING TO DO with foreign staff is cheaper (which is not true).
Singaporeans, the younger they are, the more they cannot perform. Most cannot take a bit of hardship perhaps due to their spoilt and squared brains.
一代不如一代. Seeing those 软脚兵 kind of workers one will just feel so fed up.
I don't know what kind of working force our Ah Gong is breeding and raising.
I literally despise Singaporeans in general when work is concerned.
Throw stones at me if you want but that's my 100% honest sentiment.
So, the problem is not the foreign talents/labour. The problem is Ah Gong must find a way to raise a tougher work force instead of the current strawberry type workers to make bosses like me more willing to employ Singaporeans...
as an example, the last few years have seen the issue of HDB property not meeting the demand, and the new minister has promptly ramped up the new flats to be constructed. this has resulted in a massive shortage of workers. do people realise that ? while throwing stones at PAP for not anticipating the demand, do they realise how much this has caused the cost to rise ?
the construction of HDB flats have caused other private project cost to skyrocket ..... the inflation as a result of this rising cost is going to hit everyone in singapore real soon
I talked to a construction firm doing something for me today - shocking - people are snatching workers and giving them 100% increase just to go over to the next boss in an instant to get started. scaffolding workers used to be paid cash $100 per day are now being paid $200 per day. any citizen want the job ? $200 x 20 days = $4000 per month, 9am to 5 pm, very senang job.......c'mon, anyone ?? -
verykiasu2010:
Where is the source of this list? MOM? MOH? MOHA?some talents we do not have enough :-
bus driver
truck driver
construction worker
shipyard worker
waiters/waitresses
hotel chambermaid
hair dresser
seamstress
nurses
doctors
politicians
petrol station pump attendants
motor workshop mechanics
accounts clerks
construction site foremen
work site clerk-of-work
pilots
electrician
air cond fitters / installers
refuse collectors
chinese language teachers
researchers in bio-med science
clowns -
ksi:
compiled from recruitment ads and personal experience first hand
Where is the source of this list? MOM? MOH? MOHA?verykiasu2010:
some talents we do not have enough :-
bus driver
truck driver
construction worker
shipyard worker
waiters/waitresses
hotel chambermaid
hair dresser
seamstress
nurses
doctors
politicians
petrol station pump attendants
motor workshop mechanics
accounts clerks
construction site foremen
work site clerk-of-work
pilots
electrician
air cond fitters / installers
refuse collectors
chinese language teachers
researchers in bio-med science
clowns -
verykiasu2010:
I think such a bill will take years to be approved. There will be some states that will block it in Congress.
I know the rule you quoted. New rules have come about recently for certain criteria. They are now even proposing automatic green card for foreigners graduating in US uni in the name of attracting \"talent\" to stay in US to contribute to economic rejuvenation
I have something working with one of the state governments in US
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