Help please??

[Aya]

LOLMum:

there is one \"piano master\" at geylang east avenue 3. google it and call them to check the price before going down.


this was one of the shops i went many years ago to buy a piano for my dd.

if you dont like the sound, dont buy it no matter how cheap it is.

Thanks , will try that

Anyway, was just browsing and saw a Toyo (10 yrs old) going for S$1500 and a Yamaha JU109 (3 yrs old) going for S$1550.

Toyo : http://www.olx.com.sg/2nd-hand-toyo-piano-for-sale-exam-grade-iid-133966765

Yamaha : http://www.olx.com.sg/yamaha-piano-ju109-iid-125079723

I personally prefer the Yamaha, should I go for it? I know second-hands are risky but I have no choice if I have to get one below $2000...

[LOLMum]

i believe you have to play the piano to hear the sound so cant give advice based on the link. but what is good to my ears might not be good to yours.


i bought a 2nd hand piano for dd too and that was like more than 5 years ago and it is still in good condition and the sound is still pretty good. reason why i chose a 2nd hand piano was becasue dd like you just started playing the piano and we have no idea if she will continue with it. we managed to find one which is of good quality made and sound.

the salesman at the shop might be able to advise yo. you dont have to buy just because you ask questions. if you dont like it, dont buy. just look around for others.

google on how to find a good piano.

[markfch]

The URL below lists down the addresses of some of the piano shops in S'pore. But give them a call before you go down as the info maybe dated. I think there's a 2nd hand piano shop (Music Companion) in IMM and they have quite a wide range of pianos. Maybe you can call them to ask whether they have one within your budget.


http://piano-diary.blogspot.com/2008/07/piano-shops-in-singapore-piano-for.html

[peanut_butter]

If you are willing to settle for less famous 2nd-hand piano, you may get one within your budget, to last you till grade 3.


Best if you can get your father to go down to Piano-Master. The boss is very eager to demonstrate his Hailun. He may be able to convince your father.

[corneyAmber]

Sorry to say this, I think you are the main issue here as your dad only pays. So it is necessary that you do research on all models of piano that you like the sound first, then look for the second hand version to hear the sound again n with the right price, I am sure your dad will just pay. You really hv to do the groundwork to exhaust yr options and not repeat the same mistake in your first purchase. Even for a second hand one it would be good to try out the piano rigorously before making the decision. $400 to $2000 is a big jump of budget so you better get it right this time. I may sound a little harsh but both you n dad will be happy with your final purchase if you have done your part sufficiently.

[peanut_butter]

If you are willing to settle for less famous 2nd-hand piano, you may get one within your budget, to last you till grade 3.


Best if you can get your father to go down to Piano-Master. The boss is very eager to demonstrate his Hailun. He may be able to convince your father.

[Aya]

ksi:

Sorry to say this, I think you are the main issue here as your dad only pays. So it is necessary that you do research on all models of piano that you like the sound first, then look for the second hand version to hear the sound again n with the right price, I am sure your dad will just pay. You really hv to do the groundwork to exhaust yr options and not repeat the same mistake in your first purchase. Even for a second hand one it would be good to try out the piano rigorously before making the decision. $400 to $2000 is a big jump of budget so you better get it right this time. I may sound a little harsh but both you n dad will be happy with your final purchase if you have done your part sufficiently.

I never said I had a problem with my dad or his request. I just think that the budget is a bit of a constraint. I don't want to buy a cheap piano that will not last/will not sound as good. In the long run, a more expensive (and better quality one) would help to save cost since it wouldn't be spoilt so easily.

I spent almost the whole of yesterday just to do research on second hand piano shops, so yes, I am doing my work. I don't really have a favourite brand or model but I know that Yamaha and Kawai are good brands and something on the lower end would suffice (etc Yamaha JU109). I'll feel assured knowing that it's an actual brand rather than some that I've never heard of.

When I first went shopping for a piano, I had only gone through 1-2 lessons of piano so I didn't really know how to test the piano and didn't know what kind of sound I liked (couldnt tell the difference). Ended up indecisive after walking around the piano warehouse. So when I knew my friend had a piano which she never used anymore, I asked about the price and she offered to sell it to me at $400 which I agreed upon. Now that I have experienced playing it I know that pianos are actually value for money, so rest assured, I will obviously be more careful this time.

[Dreamaurora]

I am going to reiterate my usual advice when sourcing for a 2nd hand piano, always get a tuner or pianist to go along with you (preferably your teacher, if not at least a friend who has a high grade in piano).

[Dreamaurora]

Aya:

ksi:

Sorry to say this, I think you are the main issue here as your dad only pays. So it is necessary that you do research on all models of piano that you like the sound first, then look for the second hand version to hear the sound again n with the right price, I am sure your dad will just pay. You really hv to do the groundwork to exhaust yr options and not repeat the same mistake in your first purchase. Even for a second hand one it would be good to try out the piano rigorously before making the decision. $400 to $2000 is a big jump of budget so you better get it right this time. I may sound a little harsh but both you n dad will be happy with your final purchase if you have done your part sufficiently.

I never said I had a problem with my dad or his request. I just think that the budget is a bit of a constraint. I don't want to buy a cheap piano that will not last/will not sound as good. In the long run, a more expensive (and better quality one) would help to save cost since it wouldn't be spoilt so easily.

I spent almost the whole of yesterday just to do research on second hand piano shops, so yes, I am doing my work. I don't really have a favourite brand or model but I know that Yamaha and Kawai are good brands and something on the lower end would suffice (etc Yamaha JU109). I'll feel assured knowing that it's an actual brand rather than some that I've never heard of.

When I first went shopping for a piano, I had only gone through 1-2 lessons of piano so I didn't really know how to test the piano and didn't know what kind of sound I liked (couldnt tell the difference). Ended up indecisive after walking around the piano warehouse. So when I knew my friend had a piano which she never used anymore, I asked about the price and she offered to sell it to me at $400 which I agreed upon. Now that I have experienced playing it I know that pianos are actually value for money, so rest assured, I will obviously be more careful this time.

In any case, I think $2000 is quite a low budget to work with for piano that you plan to use for some time. Considering that you are in grade 2 now, the piano at most will last say around 2-4 years top for your learning and you will then be shopping for another piano again very soon. Not saying you can't take higher grade with a cheap piano, afterall I did pass my grade 7 with a very cheap and old 2nd hand Young Chang, but it is impossible to realise the finer nuances and aspects of interpretation at higher level with a cheap piano.

My suggestion for you would be to work very hard for say your grade 2 or grade 3 and try your best to get a distinction. Convince your dad that you are serious in piano and also tell him the benefits of learning piano (teaching piano part time can be quite a good source of secondary income) and hope that he will up the budget for you to get a better piano.

[peanut_butter]

Dreamaurora:

My suggestion for you would be to work very hard for say your grade 2 or grade 3 and try your best to get a distinction. Convince your dad that you are serious in piano and also tell him the benefits of learning piano (teaching piano part time can be quite a good source of secondary income) and hope that he will up the budget for you to get a better piano.

I have a feeling the excellent result would only convince her dad that the wreck could serve her well to grade 8. She might have a higher chance of success if she top up the extra cost with a loan from the father and agree to pay back with interest once she started teaching at a committed date.