Overseas Kids are better?
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insider:
:rotflmao:
emmm...this forum maybe one of the worst places for you to find your way coz you are likely to 'learn' the wrong things! Hahaha....
Your eldest seems to be in good hands. When I am in mood, will meet you at Hong Wen thread to share with you more. I owe Hong Wen a great tribute for giving my two elder kids wonderful and unforgettable primary school lives for solid six years (despite also having 'bad' teachers around)...
I think this forum helps to let me work out my anxiety and then I try to be the parent I want to be, does it make sense?
I have good gut feel about the school. My DH likes the P.
I just need to tame my inner demon
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Its not that our kids are not better but our education system suppress their thinking and views. Our kids are quite smart though… They know what can be said and what cannot during discussion in class in order not to be marked. What types of model answers the teachers want to hear. Even you want to raise your view on issue you disagree, must do it the right way and not the left way. I love to listen to her telling me about their lesson on Singapore Studies and the type of so called model answers and how the classmates behave in this lesson. Must salute these 15 year old kids!
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so now I am thinking whether to send the kids out from singapore after their sec 4 and sec 2 respectively …
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verykiasu2010:
so now I am thinking whether to send the kids out from singapore after their sec 4 and sec 2 respectively ....
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SAHM_TAN:
seriously!!verykiasu2010:
so now I am thinking whether to send the kids out from singapore after their sec 4 and sec 2 respectively ....
seriously?
in order not to be \"boxed up\" in their thinking by the system -
verykiasu2010:
But....but....if remembered correctly from your other posts, your kids are in very very very good school, there also kena boxed?seriously!!
in order not to be \"boxed up\" in their thinking by the system -
verykiasu2010:
seriously!!SAHM_TAN:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]so now I am thinking whether to send the kids out from singapore after their sec 4 and sec 2 respectively ....
seriously?
in order not to be \"boxed up\" in their thinking by the system[/quote]Really depends on your family support structure. Don't just send the kids out and then expect miracles to happen. You are a great parent, so don't stop being one. I've also seen some parents who sent their kids overseas and left them there with relatives thinking everything will be ok. Well, most times everything can be ok, sometimes not. So I won't take chances.
In most countries, the problem with them, in my opinion is soft parenting. I am never a fan of any education system, so I believe parents play the biggest role. If the kid goes overseas and you follow along, I think it is important not to follow their soft parenting style. It is not difficult for our kids to excel in almost any country, as long as we continue to be vigilant parents and encourage our kids to work hard to achieve their dreams.
However, going overseas gives the children a chance to learn independence, even if the parents go along. Outside Singapore, children are allowed to make errors so they learn more, especially in the important life skills department. Certainly and ironically, they think more, and are more confident to speak up. I hope our Singaporean children absorb more of such a culture without losing our own specialty in studying hard. When they come back, they will really shine if we parents do our jobs well. :celebrate: -
daisyt:
Its not that our kids are not better but our education system suppress their thinking and views. Our kids are quite smart though... They know what can be said and what cannot during discussion in class in order not to be marked. What types of model answers the teachers want to hear. Even you want to raise your view on issue you disagree, must do it the right way and not the left way. I love to listen to her telling me about their lesson on Singapore Studies and the type of so called model answers and how the classmates behave in this lesson. Must salute these 15 year old kids!
I think Singapore has more than smart kids. We have the best parents in the world. That is a problem itself, leaving educators to always fall back on parents and kids, and they do not take responsibility in teaching sometimes. If the kid does not do his homework, call the parent, if his work is poor, call the parent, if he misbehaves, call the parent. Teachers seem 'impotent' these days.
Teachers, because of their KPI system, are becoming less and less influential in academic areas, afraid to make mistakes. Even if they think the child's answers are right sometimes, they hesitate to stick their heads out and mark the child correct, because the model answer is right. Of course lah, who wants to take responsibility for being different, just follow the model answer is always safe and someone else's problem.
This kind of culture than got passed on to our children. Everyone becomes kiasi and then it becomes second nature. After some time, they cannot and don't know how to unlock that creativity and thought process anymore. Takes a lot of time at tertiary to unlock that. Compared to overseas student who do not have this burden. This afraid-to-be-wrong culture was not as real in other countries, and hence they can explore a lot more.
So yes, we have students who perhaps are born smarter, but our system certainly do not allow the unlocking of this potential. Our students are not very prepared for tertiary, and certainly very ill prepared for post grad, unless that culture within them change. -
Pam, thanks for the comment
my kids and their friends could be going together … these few days are like having conferences of families liddat … debating on which school is better, what are the options on which uni to go and which course …
the main thinking has been along the line of whether can get into the desire courses in local u…if not then why go through the pain and then eventually end up with the same path 2 years later …
probably will make a trip there to see the places and see how ready they are to go … one at a time, the younger one won’t be going so soon but all these discussions have opened up their options . -
overseas or local studies, i think parents make the difference la. my PIL hands off all decision right after PSLE, so my husband planned his own education route. he skipped one O-level paper to focus on the rest and went non-main stream route after O-levels. i asked him why he think gahman (supposedly red tape people) want to employ him he said cos sometimes they want someone to think out of the box to improve work processes....whether they adopt suggestions is another matter. i find him very creative ...the way he hang laundry using half the number of clothes pegs and clothes hangers....very inspiring :rotflmao:
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