Q&A - PSLE Math
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Can use algebra one. But many Pr sch teachers no understand workings in algebra or other method because the answer keys given to them are all in model. So they no no how to mark. The easy way out - discourage students from using other methods.
A friend of mind has to go personally to tell off the math teacher to let her girl use algebra. End up poor girl got marked. Very sad when math teachers no no algebra. They only know how to follow the answer keys in "chocolate bars" -
Mama Leong:
Hi Lynn1967 and Mama Leong,Pardon me, u are a pri tutor but u cannot differentiate a algebra from a non algebra question?
Quite curious why wasnt u a sec tutor instead.
Teachers are VERY ignorant in using algebra to solve problems, but algebra is an accurate and accepted way of solving problems, but they do not accept it for some reasons. Maybe they do not understand it so they want us to simplify it for them?
:lol: 
And Mama Leong, there is no such thing as a \"non algebra\" question. Even a ratio problem, like the last question of PSLE Maths, could be used with algebra to solve it. And Mama Leong, it is \"why weren't you a sec tutor instead\", not \"why WASN'T you a sec tutor instead\"... -
atutor2001:
You are right atutor2001...Can use algebra one. But many Pr sch teachers no understand workings in algebra or other method because the answer keys given to them are all in model. So they no no how to mark. The easy way out - discourage students from using other methods.
A friend of mind has to go personally to tell off the math teacher to let her girl use algebra. End up poor girl got marked. Very sad when math teachers no no algebra. They only know how to follow the answer keys in \"chocolate bars\"
It is like they are simplifying us into the model-drawing P1 kids again... -
atutor2001:
This question is actually a prelim question from a neighbourhood school. It is very interesting because it tests the kids understanding of fractions and multiples. For those who love using model, it is the easiest way to understand.[/quote]Hi atutor2001,[quote]
A man spent 1/5 of his money on clothes and a few sevenths on food. He has $152 left. How much did he spend on food?
Is the answer $380? -
Muffins:
Hi Lynn1967 and Mama Leong,
Teachers are VERY ignorant of using algebra to solve problems, but algebra is an accurate and accepted way of solving problems, but they do not accept it for some reason. Maybe they do not unerstand it so they want us to simplify it for them? :lol:
And Mama Leong, it is \"why weren't you a sec tutor instead\", not \"why WASN'T you a sec tutor instead\"...
Muffins:
I don't see a need for you to correct Mama Leong's language as I think Mama Leong is not a teacher/tutor. In the first place, aren't you able to spot so many errors of your own?
Examples:
It should be 'Teachers are VERY ignorant in using algebra to solve problems' and not 'Teachers are VERY ignorant of using algebra to solve problems';
It should be ' ... accept it for some reasons ' and not '... accept it for some reason' -
Augmum:
Last yr when my dd was in P5, she had a prob sum which she can't do. in the end my husband use algebra and solve it.Mama Leong:
In pri schools, the children are taught models so they shd use the proper way to solve the qns. I totally disagree with Guanhui mentioning that he is gg to teach the students trigo etc to prepare them for psle but I beg to difer.
No doubt they will be able to get the answer but they will definitely not able to get the marks as the method is not taught in school. I have confirm with school teacher before. No secondary methods will be allowed and it is not accepted.
Parents, do take note and remind yr Tutors that thet should be teaching them using models instead.
hi mama leong
I believe u have already read the moe's official reply letter.
can i know which school teacher had confirmed with you that no secondary methods will be allowed and it is not accepted?
yes, they don't encourage but doesn't mean that they can mark them wrong. never happen in my gal's school exam/worksheets before.
fyi, some pupils even use Sakamoto Maths Method whereby the teachers don't even know how to use.
When the homework was returned, her teacher mark a big cross. But the answer is correct. My daughter went to look for the teacher. Her teacher told her', Tis method is not taught, not accepted!\"
I am not the one who says that Algebra cannot be used, it is the school teachers that penalises us for using! -
Muffins:
Hi atutor2001,
This question is actually a prelim question from a neighbourhood school. It is very interesting because it tests the kids understanding of fractions and multiples. For those who love using model, it is the easiest way to understand.atutor2001:
[quote]
A man spent 1/5 of his money on clothes and a few sevenths on food. He has $152 left. How much did he spend on food?
Is the answer $380?[/quote]I also get $380, tianzhu also get 380 so I think it should be correct. :lol: -
Lynn1967:
You are right Lynn1967, I should be looking out for myself first before looking out for other people's faults. Sorry MamaLeong...Muffins:
Hi Lynn1967 and Mama Leong,
Teachers are VERY ignorant of using algebra to solve problems, but algebra is an accurate and accepted way of solving problems, but they do not accept it for some reason. Maybe they do not unerstand it so they want us to simplify it for them? :lol:
And Mama Leong, it is \"why weren't you a sec tutor instead\", not \"why WASN'T you a sec tutor instead\"...
Muffins:
I don't see a need for you to correct Mama Leong's language as I think Mama Leong is not a teacher/tutor. In the first place, aren't you able to spot so many errors of your own?
Examples:
It should be 'Teachers are VERY ignorant in using algebra to solve problems' and not 'Teachers are VERY ignorant of using algebra to solve problems';
It should be ' ... accept it for some reasons ' and not '... accept it for some reason'
:imsorry:
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Lynn1967:
If the problem is solved by the parent and not the student, then algebra did not help the student to solve the problems independently. If the student really knows algebra well and can convince the teacher his/her ability, maybe the teacher has to give in a bit if the student can explain how he/she derived the answers correctly using algebra.Last yr when my dd was in P5, she had a prob sum which she can't do. in the end my husband use algebra and solve it.
When the homework was returned, her teacher mark a big cross. But the answer is correct. My daughter went to look for the teacher. Her teacher told her', Tis method is not taught, not accepted!\"
I am not the one who says that Algebra cannot be used, it is the school teachers that penalises us for using!
Algebra is an international \"gold\" standard, no genuine Maths educator/teacher can \"ban\" algebra and/or discard it.
hence the position \"In the marking of PSLE Mathematics, all mathematically correct solutions are acceptable and there is no loss of marks if a correct algebraic method is used.\" -
Lynn1967:
If the problem is solved by the parent and not the student, then algebra did not help the student to solve the problems independently. If the student really knows algebra well and can convince the teacher his/her ability, maybe the teacher has to give in a bit if the student can explain how he/she derived the answers correctly using algebra.Last yr when my dd was in P5, she had a prob sum which she can't do. in the end my husband use algebra and solve it.
When the homework was returned, her teacher mark a big cross. But the answer is correct. My daughter went to look for the teacher. Her teacher told her', Tis method is not taught, not accepted!\"
I am not the one who says that Algebra cannot be used, it is the school teachers that penalises us for using!
Algebra is an international \"gold\" standard, no genuine Maths educator/teacher can \"ban\" algebra and/or discard it.
hence the position \"In the marking of PSLE Mathematics, all mathematically correct solutions are acceptable and there is no loss of marks if a correct algebraic method is used.\"
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