DSA Appeal 2011

[Alchemist]

A related point. We applied for dsa to a school that is supposed to admit 100% via DSA only. However in the rejection letter the school mentioned we can apply after PSLE. In fact this school even has a post PSLE application process (not via S1 posting).


This school had told us that all 200 places have been taken up by dsa students and there are no vacancies for the shotrlisted post PSLE candidates. That sounds rather stupid, does it not? Why go thru the exercise then.

I think the school also did not expect MOE to adhere to this ruling strictly. I think the key mistake MOE made is to allow it in previous yrs and set expectation. My husband’s colleague gave up NuSH CO to go to RI. MOE permitted an implied sanction of this practice. This year they simply repeated their words uttered in the past, without explicitly mentioning that their implied sanction of the previous years is withdrawn. Of course, they cd not outwardly acknowledge they let their own rules be broken.

So I guess I understand the parents frustration. Btw, we do not have a CO. But are on the other end - due to the letter stating he can apply after PSLE my son really studied hard, went from 75percentile in his school to 4th in school for PSLE. Although he has been ‘shortlisted’ to his dream school, there are no vacancies.

I guess I should just be happy the letter spurred him to work harder. But can’t help but wish we/ he had not been given the additional glimmer of hope. Well I guess, you can’t always have it good. Personally, I feel those who get COs should honour the commitment. It is ironic that my son’s situation is testing my personal belief.

Perhaps it’s time to reviews DSA and restrict it to those with special talents in CCAs

[zeemimi]

Pen88n:

RGS also mentioned that all DSA CO appeal cases need to be approved by MOE, I think.

MOE is gonna have a hard time approving. Either way, one group is not gonna be happy.

[less kiasu liao]

Why only sports? How about other talents?![/quote]

Ya ya ... Phankao .. Less Kiasu Liao has left out music talent .. [/quote]

plus other talents too, lah. So many. Dance, Math, Science, etc, etc.[/quote]

I am a little worried about the inclusion of non academic talents through DSA to these academically 'xiong' schools. This is based on my experience with one of my older kids. These children may do better in a slower pace school, while being given time and space to blossom in their special talent. These 'xiong' schools are really 'xiong' academically, SOTA and the SPORTS SCHOOL being the exception. We must remember that, in the end, it is the A level grades that count, not the route they take.

[yamatomato]

I dont think rgs website states that dsa appeal must be approved by moe. This is not possible . We all know how efficient is our moe. The whole world is progressing but they heng tat ka ki

[phankao]

less kiasu liao:

[quote] only sports? How about other talents?!

[quote] ya ... Phankao .. Less Kiasu Liao has left out music talent .. [/quote][quote]plus other talents too, lah. So many. Dance, Math, Science, etc, etc.[/quote]I am a little worried about the inclusion of non academic talents through DSA to these academically 'xiong' schools. This is based on my experience with one of my older kids. These children may do better in a slower pace school, while being given time and space to blossom in their special talent. These 'xiong' schools are really 'xiong' academically, SOTA and the SPORTS SCHOOL being the exception. We must remember that, in the end, it is the A level grades that count, not the route they take.[/quote]Well, top schools like RI/RGS/NJC/HCI/NUSH also don't take in other than academic and sports under DSA.

[Snow Crystal]

Alchemist:

Perhaps it's time to reviews DSA and restrict it to those with special talents in CCAs

Purely special talents in CCA? Mainstream academic being accepted via DSA is actually very small number per school. So you mean DSA =
(a) GEP +CCAs only? Mainstreamers will cry foul- \"elitism\" :stompfeet:
Or
(b) CCAs only? GEPpers will cry foul- \"aiyo, some of us won't do well in PSLE. We join GEP for what if no DSA advantage....\"

Btw congrats on your DS' results and hard work! :rahrah:

[jtoh]

yamatomato:

I dont think rgs website states that dsa appeal must be approved by moe. This is not possible . We all know how efficient is our moe. The whole world is progressing but they heng tat ka ki

I think MOE informed all schools that all appeals/transfers (not sure if only for DSA or for all) have to be approved by them. So whether or not they post it on their site doesn't matter. It's how MOE is handling it.

[Dr.050025K]

[quote]Most parents and students appreciate each CO. They also discuss like crazy and deliberate before making that decision to accept a CO that is 2nd choice.


[/quote] The respective school selects a student and honors its commitment to take in the student irrespective of the T-score ,as long as he/she is qualified for the express stream in PSLE.
For those who want to challenge the MOE after getting better results than expected need to read the rules again and abide by it.
Don't be unreasonable that the whole system need to change because of a few who are practically very shortsighted and dishonorable.Please impart good values to children.Parents were given the opportunity to pull out before the PSLE results.Parents should teach children that when a commitment is made one must see to it is fulfilled. Otherwise it is shifting goalpost to suit oneself when the situation warrants it.Its considered bullying and cheating is it not? A parallel to this type of thinking is what communist leadership does in real life situation-always trying to extend their territories at others cost-not playing by the rules always creating chaos.No offense meant as some may be blurred by the anxiety to provide the best for their children could have erred in their judgement.It could happen to the best of us. :celebrate:

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

yamatomato:

I dont think rgs website states that dsa appeal must be approved by moe. This is not possible . We all know how efficient is our moe. The whole world is progressing but they heng tat ka ki

I think MOE informed all schools that all appeals/transfers (not sure if only for DSA or for all) have to be approved by them. So whether or not they post it on their site doesn't matter. It's how MOE is handling it.

in previous years, all appeals / transfers also needed MOE approval. the schools involved submit the respective name lists to the MOE and the MOE transfer the students' data (academic records etc) to the accepting schools

[Alchemist]

Snow Crystal:

Alchemist:

Perhaps it's time to reviews DSA and restrict it to those with special talents in CCAs

Purely special talents in CCA? Mainstream academic being accepted via DSA is actually very small number per school. So you mean DSA =
(a) GEP +CCAs only? Mainstreamers will cry foul- \"elitism\" :stompfeet:
Or
(b) CCAs only? GEPpers will cry foul- \"aiyo, some of us won't do well in PSLE. We join GEP for what if no DSA advantage....\"

Btw congrats on your DS' results and hard work! :rahrah:

No easy answer huh? I think DSA was introduced in the right spirit. They should not have been lax in execution.

Thanks.