Ministerial Salary Review

[Strparent]

Chenonceau:

concern2:

More great stuff from Mrbrown.com:


Since everyone is doing GraceFu-isms, this is mine:

\"When I made the decision to be mrbrown in 1997, pay was not a key factor. Kena lim kopi by ISD, kena sue until tng kor by ministers and having my newspaper column suspended were. The disruption to my computer gaming time was also an important consideration. I had some ground to believe that my family would not suffer a drastic change in the standard of living but we did have to sell the car and now I ride a bicycle. I fear if the balance is tilted further in the future, I will fall off my bicycle.\" -mrbrown

Yes, there is already a website dedicated to the famous \"When I made the decision…\" post by Grace Fu: http://whenimadethedecision.tumblr.com/

I like Mr Brown. He is funny. But I dun like this.

These measures bring a fair amount of harmony to Singaporeans. 3boys, stparent, ksi... myself, concern2. Diverse viewpoints have been heard and integrated into concrete measures. Harping on this does not help. If Grace wanna walk, she will walk. Then we will know her. If she dun walk and contributes like Lily Neo, we will know her.

I know. I have no sense of humour.

Yes Chenonceau, you are right ....................................................................................................................you have no sense of humour :evil: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Unfortunately, in this age of social media, cynicism will continue to thrive, be it in humour or sarcasm. After all, we are becoming angmor kwan mah

She is a Minister, she knows she will be subjected to scruntiny by the public. It was just an unfortunate choice of words on her part. I don't know if she is a good MP or not though, and I totally agree on those good MPs. :salute:

personally, I like this paragraph from http://alvinology.com/

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[Chenonceau]

Strparent:

Yes Chenonceau, you are right ....................................................................................................................you have no sense of humour :evil: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

:nunchuk: :nunchuk: :nunchuk: :nunchuk: :nunchuk:

Wanna step outside? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeya!

[3Boys]

Chenonceau:

3Boys:

Nopie Ksi-rie... he likes it. Said so himself up there...

He just doesn't approve of monks in government. Maybe he'll like Proustian nuns ya think?

A bit of both lah......

Dear... you CAN'T have half a monk and half a nun. That's a travesty of nature.[/quote]

How about a monk AND a nun.........?

[concern2]

Chenonceau:

concern2:

When I read it, I saw Mr. Brown, I didn't see Grace Fu, so I thought it was funny.

It IS funny. :hugs: I was just being prickly. I didn't mean to crash into your feelings either. Forgive.

No worries. :hugs:

Actually, I like MrBrown, so I think anything he says I will think it is funny. Yeah, I know, I am THAT superficial.

[Chenonceau]

3Boys:

How about a monk AND a nun.........?

But you dun like monks!!

[concern2]

Strparent:

personally, I like this paragraph from http://alvinology.com/

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Drums! Drums! :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

[3Boys]

Way2GO:

3Boys:

I really don't understand your beef here. Do you or do you not agree with the recommendations?

u r beginning to sound like d Minister (who was moved to look after floods n mosquitoes) when he demanded of d lovely MP Dr Lily Neo \"Wat do u want? u want to eat at a restaurant, foodcourt or HC?\"

3Boys:

Will the PM know what's going on in the committee? Of course he would! If he did not, it would be the height of incompetence and I would vote him out tomorrow.

So now having known what the comm is thinking, did he seek to influence it? Who knows? Perhaps yes, perhaps no. At the end of the day, he needs to live with the financial and political fall-out from the decision, so what's the big deal either way?

Ok let me put it in another way. It makes a great difference in d final outcome if d committee start with a blank piece of paper compared with one having restrictive terms of references.
IMV, it would hv been better dat d committee review d problem without any encumbrances or restrictive terms of reference, they can still debate on d recommendations in parliament n decide.
D way dis was done is dat d signal has already been sent dat it’s a done deal before any parliamentary debate.
I agree dat dis review is a step in d right direction. But d way dis was done will raise some questions.

3Boys:

Let me throw you a wild card. Perhaps, just perhaps, he was afraid the comm would be too timid in making the cuts, and personally intervened to get the benchmark lower. How about that? My guess, completely unsubstantiated.....

How about dis? It was LKY who first advocated d hefty pay increases in 1994 citing attracting talent n preventing graft as strong justifications. Dis was reinforced by SME GCT when he was PM. Is PM LHL now going to say his predecessors were wrong? Too deep a cut would make those earlier justifications indefensible. There has to be a political compromise.

But what you are saying is completely speculative leh....but you insist that there is more than a modicum of truth. Aren't you twisting the facts to fit your view....?

[concern2]

concern2:

Strparent:

personally, I like this paragraph from http://alvinology.com/

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Drums! Drums! :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

Actually, the first thing that hit me when I read GF's comment was \"Oh, come on, it's not like you are going to join the oppositions, what privacy was she talking about? (actually, I didn't even knew who she was until then :oops: )

[Way2GO]

I don’t really see what is wrong with Grace Fu’s comments on her considerations to become an MP n her view on d Ministerial Salary review dat drew all dis mockery.

Her father was James Fu.
An interesting snippet is dat James Fu was left leaning, but he was spared detention during Operation Cold Store, n subsequently became press secretary to then PM LKY.

[Strparent]

concern2:

actually, I didn't even knew who she was until then :oops:

concern2,

apart from about 14,100 voters living in Yuhua, I think majority also dunno who was graceful.

:siam:

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