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    Mom call police and MOE : Teacher force son for a haircut

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      looking4Tutor
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      2ppaamm:

      Also to note that not every kid learn at the same pace. Some kids 'get it' (obey = less consequence) faster and some slower. Just like in academics. Some students needs to be told off and make more mistakes before they understand certain stuff, some kids are more street smart. What I also don't understand is why we are willing to help the academically weak, but label a kid that takes longer to learn social norms defiant with just one mistake.
      Singapore goverment schools need educator like you. :udawoman:

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        Daddy D
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        No educating style is perfect.

        Likewise, no parenting style is perfect.
        So it's not right to impose such style on one another.
        Bad enough that the student is challenging the school rules... Worse, even parents are challenging the school rules/authority.
        What's will be the reaction if the school starts challenging parent styles/authority?
        Lose-lose situation.
        :faint:

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          corneyAmber
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          I believe there are both good teachers, bad students and bad teachers, good students, nothing is so absolute.


          Assuming in this case the teacher is bad(i.e. quick to pounce on the kids), then the skills a child need to learn is how to effectively communicate with the teacher instead of showing defiance, that aggravates the "aggressor". Art of negotiation is better than showing defiance as that is a sure-lose strategy. Remember the story of the lion and the mouse? When caught by the lion, the mouse could actually negotiate with the lion for a release and in the end fulfilled its promise to the lion? If we can be so kiasu about things, we should be kia to su in this kind of situation. In fact there would be more such "bullies" in our lives, even bosses bully and defiance is suicidal. So learn it in school when there is an opportunity to exercise the learning. So a child communicating problems at school to family early is a good practice. I also believe such punishment is not a sudden happening, there should be symptoms leading to it.

          So if I know a teacher always uses a school rule to find fault with my child, I will work like the "mouse" above quickly to prevent a sudden attack on my child. The old saying…"Prevention is better than cure"…always applies…

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            Daddy D
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            Saw today's report on some \"problem\" students who made good for O levels... They changed for the better with the help from teachers and parents.

            Not worth the while trying to change the system, if there is no self-reflection.

            :celebrate:

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              Chenonceau
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              Daddy 😧
              Saw today's report on some \"problem\" students who made good for O levels... They changed for the better with the help from teachers and parents.

              Not worth the while trying to change the system, if there is no self-reflection.

              :celebrate:

              Yes... big and disgusting wayang. MOE thinks it is perfect.

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                verykiasu2010
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                Chenonceau:
                Daddy 😧

                Saw today's report on some \"problem\" students who made good for O levels... They changed for the better with the help from teachers and parents.

                Not worth the while trying to change the system, if there is no self-reflection.

                :celebrate:


                Yes... big and disgusting wayang. MOE thinks it is perfect.

                you do need positive propaganda now and then, a better evil :evil: :evil:

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                  2ppaamm
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                  looking4Tutor:
                  2ppaamm:


                  Also to note that not every kid learn at the same pace. Some kids 'get it' (obey = less consequence) faster and some slower. Just like in academics. Some students needs to be told off and make more mistakes before they understand certain stuff, some kids are more street smart. What I also don't understand is why we are willing to help the academically weak, but label a kid that takes longer to learn social norms defiant with just one mistake.

                  Singapore goverment schools need educator like you. :udawoman:

                  I've already quit my job and into my 9th year of teaching 😂 .

                  Where I teach, we don't care about the hairstyles of students. This is an interesting note and many parents will definitely jump sky high if I tell you this: you can actually guess the personality of the student by his/her hairstyle. The kuai kuai 4x2 kind are not vocal, keep to themselves and are normally 'B's. The fancy, long hairstyle boys are creative, vocal and are life of the class. If they are diligent as well (which they normally are despite their hairdos), they are sure 'A's. If they are the lazy ones that skip one or two classes, they fall to B's or C's. The simple girl hairstyles have poor EQ, and therefore high 'B's because they suffer on the peer rating side and class participation. The nice and neat fancy girl hairstyles have good people skills, and score 'A's because where I teach, there is more than just mugging, unless they play too much and don't attend classes. (1 in a thousand skip one or two classes)

                  Hairstyles has nothing to do with their aptitude, their ability to follow instructions, their academic abilities, and abilities to work together with others. And certainly not their ability to learn.

                  BTW, all my boys have very short hair and were never caught by teachers for hair-related problems. My son, who is in the final year uni, sports the shortest hair, and he goes and cuts it every month to upkeep its neatness. It is more important to teach the rationale for doing things and get their buy-in, than forcing them.

                  How long does it take to teach and help a child understand about hairstyle and grooming? Maybe 15 to 60 minutes. How long does it take to check the hair, send to another to check his hair, call parent, cut the hair out etc? And then do that again the next time etc? Probably years. I like short cuts. No pun intended. 🙂

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                    2ppaamm
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                    verykiasu2010:

                    how do you know it is just one mistake ?
                    It was the first day of school when his hair was cut. I don't think people go back to school during school hols to get their hair checked? Every case should be handled like it is a fresh case. Educators should not bear grudges. If we keep accumulating their errors, there's no chance for a student to 'renew' himself.

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                      verykiasu2010
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                      2ppaamm:
                      verykiasu2010:


                      how do you know it is just one mistake ?

                      It was the first day of school when his hair was cut. I don't think people go back to school during school hols to get their hair checked? Every case should be handled like it is a fresh case. Educators should not bear grudges. If we keep accumulating their errors, there's no chance for a student to 'renew' himself.

                      his hair was cut once last year , as reported under asiaone.com

                      this is a repeat.

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                        2ppaamm
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                        Daddy 😧
                        Saw today's report on some \"problem\" students who made good for O levels... They changed for the better with the help from teachers and parents.

                        Not worth the while trying to change the system, if there is no self-reflection.

                        :celebrate:
                        I am a bit confused and blur here. Whose self-reflection? 🤷

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