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    Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result

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    • U Offline
      UncleLim
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      We can debate till the cows come home while the likes of Lxxxning Lxb laughs all the way to the bank… Guess what ? Maybe we will see one of them IPO on the stock exchange soon!

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        Chenonceau:
        coast:


        Instead, this should indicate that we have not spent enough time coaching and helping our children with their school work as well as preparing them to face the challenges of the world.

        If school is the parents' job, then what are schools for? Parents who both work full time turn to enrichment centres because

        (1) they are so busy making a living, they have no time...
        (2) schools test far beyond what is taught

        It doesn't help that working hours get longer and longer.

        Hi Chenonceau, I knew you would say that πŸ™‚

        The article is not written by me ... it's from newspaper TODAY's voices (forum). I am re-posting it here to see what comments our KSP parents have regarding the thoughts of the writer.

        My own 2-cents view? I do not think it's good for our children to over-rely on any external help ... be it parent coaching, tuition or enrichment.

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          Chenonceau
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          coast:
          Chenonceau:

          [quote=\"coast\"]
          Instead, this should indicate that we have not spent enough time coaching and helping our children with their school work as well as preparing them to face the challenges of the world.

          If school is the parents' job, then what are schools for? Parents who both work full time turn to enrichment centres because

          (1) they are so busy making a living, they have no time...
          (2) schools test far beyond what is taught

          It doesn't help that working hours get longer and longer.

          Hi Chenonceau, I knew you would say that πŸ™‚

          The article is not written by me ... it's from newspaper TODAY's voices (forum). I am re-posting it here to see what comments our KSP parents have regarding the thoughts of the writer.

          My own 2-cents view? I do not think it's good for our children to over-rely on any external help ... be it parent coaching, tuition or enrichment.[/quote]
          Yeah.... I am so predictable. I did know they weren't your views. Kekekekeke! You're predictable too!! πŸ˜† I was just taking the opportunity to reiterate a view so that more people will know.

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            coast
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            Chenonceau:
            coast:

            [quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

            If school is the parents' job, then what are schools for? Parents who both work full time turn to enrichment centres because

            (1) they are so busy making a living, they have no time...
            (2) schools test far beyond what is taught

            It doesn't help that working hours get longer and longer.

            Hi Chenonceau, I knew you would say that πŸ™‚

            The article is not written by me ... it's from newspaper TODAY's voices (forum). I am re-posting it here to see what comments our KSP parents have regarding the thoughts of the writer.

            My own 2-cents view? I do not think it's good for our children to over-rely on any external help ... be it parent coaching, tuition or enrichment.


            Yeah.... I am so predictable. I did know they weren't your views. Kekekekeke! You're predictable too!! πŸ˜† I was just taking the opportunity to reiterate a view so that more people will know.[/quote] :rotflmao:

            I have lots to learn from KSP parents like yourself though (my DS is only P2) and I am open to any train of thoughts as long as I think it makes sense and might work on my DS. I have nothing against enrichment or tuition actually ... but cannot help but worried when many parents or even students themselves give SO MUCH credit to these centres. Have they given a chance to themselves and see what they could achieve without over-relying on external help? If primary school is not the time, then when? I was shocked when I read IP students, JC students need tuition! Hmm ... haven't read about undergrads taking tuition though ... I hope not πŸ™‚

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              KSP
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              UncleLim:
              We can debate till the cows come home while the likes of Lxxxning Lxb laughs all the way to the bank... Guess what ? Maybe we will see one of them IPO on the stock exchange soon!

              :hi5: I'm really not surprise this will happen and more businessman will follow this model - targetting only the high-end (ie. parents who can affort and to take in only the best students). The demand is driven by market force. As long as there is demand there will be supply.

              If anyone had read last Sunday Times would have seen their 1/2 page (on 2nd page) ads. Their School Mission is something like : Nurturing future leaders. Very similar to top Sec Sch.

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                looking4Tutor
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                KSP:


                :hi5: I'm really not surprise this will happen and more businessman will follow this model - targetting only the high-end (ie. parents who can affort and to take in only the best students). The demand is driven by market force. As long as there is demand there will be supply.
                It should be - more former HODs and NIE trained teachers turned businessman will follow this model.

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                • coastC Offline
                  coast
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                  Teachers do make a difference. I am sure there are many students who benefit from teachers whether they are from school, enrichment or tuition. I sincerely salute all those teachers who have made a difference to their students! By all means give credit to the individual teacher. But if it is the "fantastic" worksheets from the centres, then we need to ask … why can’t MOE provide adequate materials to ALL students? Why parents need to visit Popular, KSP and other places to source for external assessment, resources, … etc? Why some schools give different materials to different classes? The key reason I am writing this … we need to make it as much a level playing field for every student as possible … not dependent on extensive parent coaching, enrichment materials, …

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                    looking4Tutor
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                    coast:
                    why can't MOE provide adequate materials to ALL students? Why parents need to visit Popular, KSP and other places to source for external assessment, resources, ... etc? Why some schools give different materials to different classes? The key reason I am writing this ... we need to make it as much a level playing field for every student as possible .. not dependent on extensive parent coaching, enrichment materials, ...

                    All school children are equal, but some school children are more equal than others. If all primary schools become top primary schools then somehow, somewhere there will be the true true top primary school.

                    Some schools, seem to me, are destines to be less equal and play the role of feeder-schools to Normal / Normal Tech Secondary schools. Those from these schools that manage to escape out of it are those who bought their equal rights from tuition/enrichment centres.

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                      I have heard hero stories of a child whose parents do not coach him and the child totally relied on the school's teaching and support and every year was the top student even up to PSLE. Alot is also to do with the inner material this child has, highly self-driven and most likely is a self-learner.


                      Perhaps the interesting statistics to find out is more children taking tuition or more enrichment? If tuition(must-have) is more, that means the standard of exam is beyond many children just because we try to cast a net for the higher achiever ones. However, if it is more taking enrichment(good-to-have), then it is really a choice of the market to want to throw more money into the business. Of course the second case have a potential of raising the exam standards.

                      In line with the article's title, many SAHPs also run tuition or enrichment for their children...what do we say about these? Ok because they did not pay money to do it? How about pay time?

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                        KSP
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                        looking4Tutor:
                        coast:

                        why can't MOE provide adequate materials to ALL students? Why parents need to visit Popular, KSP and other places to source for external assessment, resources, ... etc? Why some schools give different materials to different classes? The key reason I am writing this ... we need to make it as much a level playing field for every student as possible .. not dependent on extensive parent coaching, enrichment materials, ...


                        All school children are equal, but some school children are more equal than others. If all primary schools become top primary schools then somehow, somewhere there will be the true true top primary school.

                        Some schools, seem to me, are destines to be less equal and play the role of feeder-schools to Normal / Normal Tech Secondary schools. Those from these schools that manage to escape out of it are those who bought their equal rights from tuition/enrichment centres.

                        You have somehow affirmed my perception of SG education system and I'm more convinced that grades can be bought.

                        I have always wanted bring this point out here and u have done now. :rahrah: :celebrate:

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