Parents, not enrichment centres, are key to result

[Chenonceau]

toddles:

It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.

Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.

[wonderm]

Chenonceau:

toddles:

It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.

Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.

I read the article in today's paper. Don't think that's what he was saying.

[looking4Tutor]

Chenonceau:

toddles:

It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.

Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.

:rotflmao: no lah that's not what he implied, but o well since flooding can be ponding any interpretation also can lah.

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He said \"don't just chase for paper\"; you have to chase the paper plus acquiring more employable skill-sets.

This is my coffee-shop chit-chat interpretation of the taiji educational system -

Yes, parents need to do more for their children, not just helping them chase the paper but to build their character too.

Yes, broader society should set up more tuition and enrichment centres. As they are profit-making, they should ensure that the children under them pass whatever tests and major exams and prepare them in advance for the class lessons.

As for teachers they will cover whatever printed on the text books. If they go the extra miles they will consolidated all the questions and asnwers from this forum (like what I did for my ds - cos no money for tutor), as they might not have time to write their teaching materials. They will also relentlessly ask parents to send their children to the broader society so as to catch up with the rest of the smaller society in the classroom.

This is the 18 movements of taiji educational system.

End of my nonsensical coffee shop talks.

[kiddo]

Chenonceau:

What I really really wanna know is if HSK REALLY said that the education system can't deliver, and therefore parents/tutors/enrichment (i.e., broader society) needs to help.


The solution is easy... stop testing beyond what the system can comfortably teach. Let crazy parents hothouse their kids into Cambridge at age 15, but don't let the whole system chase after the crazies. Test less, and we will expect less of the system. Expect less of our flesh and blood and we will expect less of the system.

Chenonceau , I second this :goodpost:
we need more informed parents to second this :hi5:

[jedamum]

looking4Tutor:

This is my coffee-shop chit-chat interpretation of the taiji educational system -

Yes, parents need to do more for their children, not just helping them chase the paper but to build their character too.

Yes, broader society should set up more tuition and enrichment centres. As they are profit-making, they should ensure that the children under them pass whatever tests and major exams and prepare them in advance for the class lessons.

As for teachers they will cover whatever printed on the text books. If they go the extra miles they will consolidated all the questions and asnwers from this forum (like what I did for my ds - cos no money for tutor), as they might not have time to write their teaching materials. They will also relentlessly ask parents to send their children to the broader society so as to catch up with the rest of the smaller society in the classroom.

This is the 18 movements of taiji educational system.

End of my nonsensical coffee shop talks.

http://i41.tinypic.com/anew5j.gif\"> wait..i still got a lot of coffee...

[HAPPYH]

Nebbermind:

Chenonceau:

I know people who teach at Learning Lab and Mindstretcher. They don't write their own materials. They're given materials to teach with. If 2 small organisations can achieve this, why can't MOE help its teachers similarly?

But since these centres r known to have entry exams and their material caters mainly to the higer scorer of the cohort so that they can be pushed further (at a cost). Do we really wanna dump this material to the rest of the cohort when they r not quite ready?

Just test what you teach. That is what we all want. If MOE/School do that (teach less AND test what you taught), I am sure the number of KSP members, the number of tuition/enrichment centres, the number of assessment books will drop dramaaaatically. Then the main focus will be chanelled thro' other extra curricular activities and life skills.

[toddles]

Chenonceau:

toddles:

It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.

Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.

No lah, I think he was referring to broader society in terms of \"it takes a village to raise a child\". Don't think he meant tuition per se.

[jesschan]

wonderm:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"toddles\"]
It's in this morning's papers. He was speaking at an SMU event.

Alright then people... you heard it from the boss. He has sanctioned tuition/enrichment/homsechooling because his system can't deliver the results he expects from our kids.

I read the article in today's paper. Don't think that's what he was saying.[/quote]Agree, I don't think this is what he meant if you read the entire article....

[wonderm]

HAPPYH:

Just test what you teach. That is what we all want. If MOE/School do that (teach less AND test what you taught), I am sure the number of KSP members, the number of tuition/enrichment centres, the number of assessment books will drop dramaaaatically. Then the main focus will be chanelled thro' other extra curricular activities and life skills.

That's not enough, MOE still needs to do at least 2 more things:
1. Rename all Sec school to Rxxxxx and allocate students randomly
2. Drastically increase university intake so all who want to go in can gain admission

Otherwise, parents and students will be even more stressed as a single careless mistake in PSLE paper will make the difference which school he/she goes to. Or the schools may conduct their own admission exercises since they can't tell the difference from PSLE score. Then there will be different kinds of \"tuition centres\", e.g. for interview skills or for all kinds of \"extra curricular activities\".

Of course, I am not saying we should do the 2 things that I mentoned above, that would create many more bigger problems.

[zeemimi]

Chenonceau:

What I really really wanna know is if HSK REALLY said that the education system can't deliver, and therefore parents/tutors/enrichment (i.e., broader society) needs to help.


The solution is easy... stop testing beyond what the system can comfortably teach. Let crazy parents hothouse their kids into Cambridge at age 15, but don't let the whole system chase after the crazies. Test less, and we will expect less of the system. Expect less of our flesh and blood and we will expect less of the system.

Not only stop testing beyond what the system can comfortably teach, but also to teach sufficiently of what the system has to test.
I find the schools sore lacking in teaching creative writing (aka \"composition\") to our kids, whether in English or in Mother tongue. How do kids improve their writing when they only write 1 or 2 compos per term? And teachers just give some phrases for them to use in the compo ....