Net rumour that Yaw Shin Leong having extra-maritial affair

[limlim]

Sun_2010:

limlim:

you can read abt it here.. no comment on the credibility thou.. up to you to believe.


http://thankstovivianbalakrishnan.blogspot.com/2011/05/shanmugam-had-affair-lee-hsien-loong.html

But I'll give it more credit then TR..

Why?
what makes one site more credible than the other?


:?

bcoz TR has a bad record for spinning fake stories.. you can read about the story of CCS being related to familee if you're interested.

very bad impression of TR. the other sites.. so far not aware of any proven fake stories yet..

[Way2GO]

concern2:

One thing which baffles me, and is appalling to me, is how often such 'info' is leaked out from religious organizations. No offence, and please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this how news leaked out in JN's case?


It makes me wonder how 'confidential' things really are when you try to seek help - perhaps.

I only know dat JN n family turned to CHC after d dam broke.
Don't think he was a Christian bf.
Confessions bwt subject n pastor/priest r supposed to be sacrosanct.
I opined clergymen will be daft to break dat trust.

[concern2]

Way2GO:

I only know dat JN n family turned to CHC after d dam broke.
Don't think he was a Christian bf.

No, from what I know, he goes to CHC before anything of that sort was in the news. He was one of the celebrities there.

Way2GO:

Confessions bwt subject n pastor/priest r supposed to be sacrosanct.
I opined clergymen will be daft to break dat trust.

I've always believed this to be so..

[concern2]

Way2GO:

msm is not taking d morality route; they r pussyfooting ard d 'alleged' affair;
dis is d same msm running a story fr TRE dat they hv previously said is not creditable. Has their position change?
If they hv d evidence, they r not cfming d rumour in d msm.

There has been a twist in the case of the civil servants - so now no more updates cos not enough info - so die die must find some other hot news of the sort....here's a chance not to be missed, TRE news also can, as long as not in disfavor of 'the victor' :evil:

Way2GO:

d main angle of attack is YSL AWOL from MP duties; WP is keeping mum n not answering to d public outrage. see it now?

Hmmm..... :spank: YSL :spank: YSL

[Chenonceau]

JN was already a Christian when the news broke.

[toddles]

limlim:

Like I said, the party is not accountable for it's member's private affair. So, it's handling doesn't affect my opinion of them, I feel.

I have clarified earlier that, I don't trust TR, not that I believe in YSL.

so, if the only source of information is still solely from TR only, I still don't believe it. But if there is other developments, actions, reports by ST or other sources.. that is different story.

Anyway, my comment is solely with regards to the possible impact by the ema, not related to whether I believe it nor not.

No matter how true the affair is, I still do NOT believe TR. All my post is talking about how the article by TR is not substantiated. I never say YSL is not guilty what......

Agree. TR has become so polarised that it has very little credibility to me. It's mainly those who are so blinded and blinkered by total hatred for the ruling party who choose to believe everything they read there. Prob the same demographic to the contributors.

Much prefer TOC. Even though it's certainly not all gospel truth, at least their reporting is more responsible, and they seek to give a balanced view that is sorely lacking in MSM esp when it comes to politics. whatever you say abt MSM, ultimately their core biz is to sell papers, to make sure the advertising revenue comes in. I'd say toeing the MIW line is usually secondary, though still necessary.

the MIW like to say that the online community is usually unfair to them. But Sgporeans are not ALL completely biased, not all ranters hiding under anonymity of keyboard warrioring. Of course there are some. But I believe the majority are not hatred-stoking, sh*t-stirring rumour mongers out there to propagate conspiracy theories. Give the ppl more credit. there are ppl who are fair to MIW, and will not believe that they can only do wrong and that the opposition can do no wrong.

As this case has proven, both backyards face the same human issues, that any of us could be faced with. It's not that one side is more or less moral than the other. just shows that both are made of fallible humans.

No real views on whether WP should have been more upfront, clarify, own up, move on. Perhaps their loud silence is also a reflection on how taken unawares , taken aback they were by this whole episode. Too shocked to know how to put the right spin on it to appear 'right' to the electorate. Which also bodes well in a way. Shows that our politics is not as smarmy as overseas politics where the spinning (and smearing of the other party at every opportunity to detract attn?) would have begun immediately.

[Way2GO]

concern2:

Way2GO:

I only know dat JN n family turned to CHC after d dam broke.
Don't think he was a Christian bf.

No, from what I know, he goes to CHC before anything of that sort was in the news. He was one of the celebrities there.

My bad.
OK. Chenonceau said d same thing.
many SYTs in CHC?

[Way2GO]

toddles:

Agree. TR has become so polarised that it has very little credibility to me. It's mainly those who are so blinded and blinkered by total hatred for the ruling party who choose to believe everything they read there. Prob the same demographic to the contributors.

Much prefer TOC. Even though it's certainly not all gospel truth, at least their reporting is more responsible, and they seek to give a balanced view that is sorely lacking in MSM esp when it comes to politics. whatever you say abt MSM, ultimately their core biz is to sell papers, to make sure the advertising revenue comes in. I'd say toeing the MIW line is usually secondary, though still necessary.

the MIW like to say that the online community is usually unfair to them. But Sgporeans are not ALL completely biased, not all ranters hiding under anonymity of keyboard warrioring. Of course there are some. But I believe the majority are not hatred-stoking, sh*t-stirring rumour mongers out there to propagate conspiracy theories. Give the ppl more credit. there are ppl who are fair to MIW, and will not believe that they can only do wrong and that the opposition can do no wrong.

As this case has proven, both backyards face the same human issues, that any of us could be faced with. It's not that one side is more or less moral than the other. just shows that both are made of fallible humans.

No real views on whether WP should have been more upfront, clarify, own up, move on. Perhaps their loud silence is also a reflection on how taken unawares , taken aback they were by this whole episode. Too shocked to know how to put the right spin on it to appear 'right' to the electorate. Which also bodes well in a way. Shows that our politics is not as smarmy as overseas politics where the spinning (and smearing of the other party at every opportunity to detract attn?) would have begun immediately.

I beg to differ on ur statement in bold.
When PAP came into power, LKY recognized one of d tenets to maintaining power is to muzzle d press to do its bidding.
There is a video on dis in youtube. Don't know if its still available for viewing.
d SPH chairman has always been a PAP stalwart.
Not any Tom, Dick n Harry can become chief editor of ST etc.
All screened.

[3Boys]

Way2GO:

My initial instincts was dat keeping quiet whilst internal investigations/clarifications were carried out was d right move.
But it went on for too long without a firm response (unless u count 'no comment' as one) fr WP while d fire was being fanned.
d perception dat YSL is guilty, WP is not transparent n not accounting to d public begin to stick in more ppl's minds.
WP lost a great opportunity to just come clean n appear whiter than MIWs, wouldn't u agree?
But I m just an outside observer.
WP is keeping d cards close to their chest., they know wat's best for their party.

I agree with you 100%! Well, except the last line, so maybe 90%

[corneyAmber]

3Boys:

Way2GO:

My initial instincts was dat keeping quiet whilst internal investigations/clarifications were carried out was d right move.
But it went on for too long without a firm response (unless u count 'no comment' as one) fr WP while d fire was being fanned.
d perception dat YSL is guilty, WP is not transparent n not accounting to d public begin to stick in more ppl's minds.
WP lost a great opportunity to just come clean n appear whiter than MIWs, wouldn't u agree?
But I m just an outside observer.
WP is keeping d cards close to their chest., they know wat's best for their party.

I agree with you 100%! Well, except the last line, so maybe 90%

Hey my exact thoughts too. WP disappointed me in the way they handled this. After investigation is clear, they should take a stand of their views to clear the air instead of letting YSL confessed indirectly through a resignation. The line is bold is so critical which they overlooked