Child Underperforms Because Tested Above Cognitive Level

[janet88]

Chenonceau:

janet_lee88:

We never seem to have the right minister for Education...never had anyone down to earth. One after another, they have failed to understand what Singaporean kids and parents are going through. When ministers' kids fail to live up to their parents expectations, what happens ? Get sent overseas to study or attend international schools ?

Nobody within the system will dare to be overly critical. Parents must do what we can to lobby because we know. Gone are the days when you can trust politicians to speak up for us. We need to speak up because our politicians cannot empathise. Parents who believe that things will SLOWLY change, without us continuing to speak up, will be very disappointed.

If education minister himself has told the world that Singapore education system is world class, what can we parents do ? Absolutely nothing. Things will change, but not to our advantage. At most we can only vent our frustrations.

[bebe]

violin_lover:

Chenonceau:

violin_lover: Thanks... I did read the article with google translation. But it was unclear. You have made the gist clearer now.


:thankyou:

You're welcome... apologise that I am a little bias against the Chinese author. .... I think their son is doing OK just that she is too kiasu to the extreme (i.e. the son is not a potato like our kids and yet they still engage Chinese tuition), unlike the parents here I think she wants her son to be in the BEST class......she is not happy when her son was streamed into ordinary class.....

[quote]小三年底的考试儿子还是因为表现平平而留在普通班，但学校也寄来了100元的支票作为学习进步的奖励。自己表面上恭喜了儿子学习取得的进步与获得学校的肯定，但尴尬与苦涩只能自己往肚子里吞。这不是学习优异的奖学金，只是为了鼓励普通孩子的一个学习进步奖[/quote]What is wrong with 普通班 (normal class)? Why shd she feel ashamed and bitter about her son getting the $100 award? I hope her son does not get to read her blog..it is so demoralising.

[Chenonceau]

bebe:

[quote]小三年底的考试儿子还是因为表现平平而留在普通班，但学校也寄来了100元的支票作为学习进步的奖励。自己表面上恭喜了儿子学习取得的进步与获得学校的肯定，但尴尬与苦涩只能自己往肚子里吞。这不是学习优异的奖学金，只是为了鼓励普通孩子的一个学习进步奖

What is wrong with 普通班 (normal class)? Why shd she feel ashamed and bitter about her son getting the $100 award? I hope her son does not get to read her blog..it is so demoralising.[/quote]What did she say about normal class that is demoralizing to her son? Can someone translate?


(1) Teaching Resilience by Failing Kids?
http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2012/02/teaching-resilience-by-failing-kids.html

(2) The Education System Cannot Deliver What It Expects from Our Kids?
http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2012/02/education-system-unable-to-deliver.html

[Suz855]

Hope u can understand my translation, to the china mom, her son end of the year result was just 'typical' (think she expect extra ordinary result after her investment in tuition n involvement ) and get promoted to the mixed ability class instead of the top class. So she found no joy nor proud of her son on receiving the letter. On one hand she use it to 'praise' the son but deep within she was disappointed as she knows moe does give out edusave scholarship ( think she didn't know, scholarship only given to p5, p6 pupils)n she would expect the latter than the former.


Haiz !besides to compete with local Singaporean, our kids have to compete w all thes ft and see the ft parents mindset ( winning at all cost sia).... Our poor kids

[linden2000]

Chenonceau:

bebe:

[quote]小三年底的考试儿子还是因为表现平平而留在普通班，但学校也寄来了100元的支票作为学习进步的奖励。自己表面上恭喜了儿子学习取得的进步与获得学校的肯定，但尴尬与苦涩只能自己往肚子里吞。这不是学习优异的奖学金，只是为了鼓励普通孩子的一个学习进步奖

What is wrong with 普通班 (normal class)? Why shd she feel ashamed and bitter about her son getting the $100 award? I hope her son does not get to read her blog..it is so demoralising.

What did she say about normal class that is demoralizing to her son? Can someone translate?[/quote]Actually to me, she seems to have very high expectations. Let me try to translate:

At the end of P3 SA2, son's performance was mediocre so he will stay in 'normal' class. But the school did send a $100 cheque as a form of encouragement for progress improvement. On the surface, I appear to congratulate son for his improvement and the recognition received from the school but inwardly, I felt embarrassment and bitterness because this award is not a scholarship for academic excellence but only an encouragement award to normal kids for learning progress.

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To feel embarrassment for the award....if the son knows...won't he be demoralised...???

[Chenonceau]

Thanks ladies for helping to translate. I wish I knew Chinese. So good y'all. My DS got a cheque like that before... but it was $150 (I dunno exactly what it was for... can't remember), and he was jumping up and down because.... because.... because....













...he misread as $1500. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[violin_lover]

linden2000:

Chenonceau:

What did she say about normal class that is demoralizing to her son? Can someone translate?

Actually to me, she seems to have very high expectations. Let me try to translate:

At the end of P3 SA2, son's performance was mediocre so he will stay in 'normal' class. But the school did send a $100 cheque as a form of encouragement for progress improvement. On the surface, I appear to congratulate son for his improvement and the recognition received from the school but inwardly, I felt embarrassment and bitterness because this award is not a scholarship for academic excellence but only an encouragement award to normal kids for learning progress.

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To feel embarrassment for the award....if the son knows...won't he be demoralised...???

Ha ha, she thought that cos she's from 清华 so her son must have \"good gene\" and must be a top student. She needs to wake up. A lot of us are from top US university and understand that this mindset is not right

[bebe]

Chenonceau:

Thanks ladies for helping to translate. I wish I knew Chinese. So good y'all. My DS got a cheque like that before... but it was $150 (I dunno exactly what it was for... can't remember), and he was jumping up and down because.... because.... because....











...he misread as $1500. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[bebe]

Suz855:

Haiz !besides to compete with local Singaporean, our kids have to compete w all thes ft and see the ft parents mindset ( winning at all cost sia).... Our poor kids

Exactly!! No doubt, some of her anxiety and worries really echo mind..but my challenge is to make sure that my dd gets to stay on the main stream..hers is to try getting her son to the top.
I can't say how proud I was when my dd gets to receive the edusave award...dun care if pple say I hao-lian that I took a pic and broadcast the cert on my FB..it is a recognition of diligence and effort that put in and it is that recognition that keeps us striving to do better in the next level.

And what makes her think that with her qualification, it is assumed that her son shd naturally be at the top? If I read correctly, she had another daughter who is 4yrs old..I hope she will not press her daughter as much as what she has done to her son, whom she realised has lost his study interest cos of these pressures.

[violin_lover]

bebe:

Suz855:

Haiz !besides to compete with local Singaporean, our kids have to compete w all thes ft and see the ft parents mindset ( winning at all cost sia).... Our poor kids

Exactly!! No doubt, some of her anxiety and worries really echo mind..but my challenge is to make sure that my dd gets to stay on the main stream..hers is to try getting her son to the top.
I can't say how proud I was when my dd gets to receive the edusave award...dun care if pple say I hao-lian that I took a pic and broadcast the cert on my FB..it is a recognition of diligence and effort that put in and it is that recognition that keeps us striving to do better in the next level.

And what makes her think that with her qualification, it is assumed that her son shd naturally be at the top? If I read correctly, she had another daughter who is 4yrs old..I hope she will not press her daughter as much as what she has done to her son, whom she realised has lost his study interest cos of these pressures.

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