MOE should give P1 registration priority to SG kids?

[corneyAmber]

3Boys:

ksi:

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3Boys, this 5% includes both FT and FW's kids?

I am making an assumption based off the statistics. I.e. those locally born (which could of course include PRs) against those who registered for P1 7 years later. I.e., relatively long stayers. The overage is 5%, which I attribute to new imports, +/- a bit.

Actually I am thinking the immediate imports with ready children are generating some of the concerns and typically they are the FTs which I am not sure what is the actual %. Interesting fact about them is, their numbers may be small but their \"threat\" impact seems significant. Apart from P1 registration, they also make an impact in school results ranking. Of course that is merit-based but what I am trying to say is the statistics may appear small but they somehow magnify their presence by their ability to drive results. My school has quite a few outstanding PRC kids.

[3Boys]

ksi:

Actually I am thinking the immediate imports with ready children are generating some of the concerns and typically they are the FTs which I am not sure what is the actual %. Interesting fact about them is, their numbers may be small but their \"threat\" impact seems significant. Apart from P1 registration, they also make an impact in school results ranking. Of course that is merit-based but what I am trying to say is the statistics may appear small but they somehow magnify their presence by their ability to drive results. My school has quite a few outstanding PRC kids.

ksi, we can spend our lives tilting at windmills. How much of all of this is based on data? Come into KSP, suddenly everyone knows of a local who had been displaced by a PRC, some FT who had decamped after 'milking' the system. In all my years working within g'ment and MNC, I have yet to encounter any of such incidences. How much is hearsay?

What is the total foreign participation in the local schools? Who knows, I can only make an educated guess on available data and as far as I can see, its about 5%, or 1.5 students in every class of 30 at P1.

Is that huge? We can't allow 2 students per class to be a foreigner? We must displace every single foreign student from our top schools and place them in the periphery?

Boggles the mind. Some time in the future, our children may wish for an overseas stint to places like New York, London, Toronto, attend Uni at Harvard, MIT, Oxford. Part of the attraction will be the opportunity to meet people from other backgrounds and nationalities. And here we are, its at our doorstep, and we turn it away?

Crazy.

[corneyAmber]

3Boys, actually I agree with you that we should just learn to integrate and perhaps learn something from them on willpower, determination to overcome English to be here. Unfortunately they probably came on too fast and too strong for most people to be able to respond, I think it’s human nature.


We have no firm statistics but gutfeel probably also feel that they are growing in numbers rapidly…hence the discomfort.

[3Boys]

ksi:

Unfortunately they probably came on too fast and too strong for most people to be able to respond, I think it's human nature.


We have no firm statistics but gutfeel probably also feel that they are growing in numbers rapidly...hence the discomfort.

Yes, perceptions are key.

[BlueBells]

3Boys:

You are all going to flame me, but that's ok. I find this foreign aversion to be incredibly narrow minded. We are an open global economy with an open society. How many foreign students are there in our P-schools, really?

Actually, what irks me is not where they are from. It's their attitude and behaviour. They want to stay here, yet instead of integrating into our society, learning and adapting to our cultures here, they bring with them bad habits and expect to be treated as if they own this place. This is the one major point that I can't stand.

[corneyAmber]

3Boys:

ksi:

Unfortunately they probably came on too fast and too strong for most people to be able to respond, I think it's human nature.


We have no firm statistics but gutfeel probably also feel that they are growing in numbers rapidly...hence the discomfort.

Yes, perceptions are key.

I mentioned before right, perception is everything.

[3Boys]

ksi:

3Boys:

[quote=\"ksi\"]Unfortunately they probably came on too fast and too strong for most people to be able to respond, I think it's human nature.


We have no firm statistics but gutfeel probably also feel that they are growing in numbers rapidly...hence the discomfort.

Yes, perceptions are key.

I mentioned before right, perception is everything. [/quote]I think, therefore, I am.....(difficult, stubborn, argumentative 3Boys)

[larkspur]

i read and saw some mummies very concern that if exclude PR, their children in the school will not get to mix with other nationalities but then when we were younger, our school environments are mainly singaporean, does it makes us mummies and daddies here not to have the abilities to mix with people from other nationalities? Also your children must be in the good school with lots of PR and foreigners first, if not so what if the school has mixed nationalities, your child will still not benefit from it.Besides nowadays a lot of parents send to their kids to enrichment classes, you will find LOTs of PR and foreigners with their kids attending, so if you feel there is an absolute need for your child to mix with foreign children, send them to any enrichment classes and you will find them, lots of them

[corneyAmber]

larkspur:

i read and saw some mummies very concern that if exclude PR, their children in the school will not get to mix with other nationalities but then when we were younger, our school environments are mainly singaporean, does it makes us mummies and daddies here not to have the abilities to mix with people from other nationalities? Also your children must be in the good school with lots of PR and foreigners first, if not so what if the school has mixed nationalities, your child will still not benefit from it.Besides nowadays a lot of parents send to their kids to enrichment classes, you will find LOTs of PR and foreigners with their kids attending, so if you feel there is an absolute need for your child to mix with foreign children, send them to any enrichment classes and you will find them, lots of them

kekeke...larkspur I like your perception.

[larkspur]

by the way my foreign colleagues told me that even if they convert to singapore citizenship and gave up their country citizenship, they can still give up their singapore citizenship and get back their country citizenship if they feel they earn and benefit all they can for Sg.They told me "don’t be silly to think just because we convert to singaporean ,we can’t get back our country citizenship. Our countries are not like Singapore, give up means cannot get back, we just have to pay money and bring all the moneries back, our own countries will welcome us back". i won’t mention the countries my colleagues are from but learning these from them makes me have 1 strong thoughts: push my kids to work harder and make sure next time they get other countries PR.if there is war, dun come back