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    MOE should give P1 registration priority to SG kids?

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    • janet88J Offline
      janet88
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      1amber:
      Mawar:

      I have nothing against parents who use their financial muscle to give their children a head start in life. They have worked hard, and they are free to spend their money.


      Maybe there should be more private schools to give MOE a run for their existence.

      MOE should start first by giving parents the freedom to place their kids in international schools from primary school.

      If there are INDEPENDENT primary schools, then rich parents can send their kids there all the way...then the ordinary parents like us will have NO more problems with P1 registration. Present phases remain status quo.

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        toddles
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        1amber:
        Mawar:

        I have nothing against parents who use their financial muscle to give their children a head start in life. They have worked hard, and they are free to spend their money. In fact, I am pro choice. Use the money to put their kids into the private school of their choice.


        Maybe there should be more private schools to give MOE a run for their existence.

        MOE should start first by giving parents the freedom to place their kids in international schools from primary school.

        This is a bit like making the primary school system like the preschool/childcare system today. Free for all, dependent on market forces. You pay for what you want to get.

        I find that a bit disturbing, because it again favours the rich.

        In fact, I am in favour for increased regulation and standardisation of the pre-primary sector so that parents are not held ransom in paying exorbitant fees for an adequate level of care/teaching. The high fees are going into owners/franchiseee pockets, not even the teachers', who are paid dismal wages.

        At least with pri sch, the fees paid across the board are heavily subsidised and standardised, as well as the fact that all the teachers are NIE trained grads so there's some minimum standard. Whatever our beef with the current registration, at least ability to pay very high fees is not another factor to decide who gets to the 'good' schools.

        If we go the preschool way, it might be a race to the bottom. The rich will be able to afford the posh schools with the great teachers, and the have-nots will get lousy \"public school\" teachers.

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          huanghou
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          Not at all. There are quite a handful of local parents who intentionally do not wish to enter the rat race and choose to put their kids in international schools. For now these parents must produce justification why their kid cannot enter local primary and it must be by reason of overseas work etc.


          International schools go by IB program. It is a different curriculum from local program you will not end up in the scenario like rich get posh schools with great teachers.

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            toddles
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            well the international school fees are much higher than local schools’ isn’t it?


            they have a "better" curriculum in that it’s not so stressful, and more fun.

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              huanghou
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              Well, if you have been toggling between different threads you will read a comment that when our children suffer we suffer. How true.


              If parents prefer to send their kids to international school where learning is more fun than all the tuition and scrambling around for notes and papers that schools do not provide, then why should MOE stop them even if they live and work here?

              Isn’t this their personal choice? So back to this thread - if MOE would like every local kid to be in local school then why should he/she not be given priority?

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                janet88
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                huanghou:
                If parents prefer to send their kids to international school where learning is more fun than all the tuition and scrambling around for notes and papers that schools do not provide, then why should MOE stop them even if they live and work here?


                Isn't this their personal choice? So back to this thread - if MOE would like every local kid to be in local school then why should he/she not be given priority?
                Since govt has given the go ahead for international schools like ACS (international), SJI I and HCI to operate, why not allow primary schools to go independent too ? If rich parents send their littles one to international primary schools, then there will be more vacancies for mainstream primary schools, esp popular ones. Then we won't have another Jim Rogers taking up a place in Phase 2B in NYPS.

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                  jtoh
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                  janet_lee88:
                  huanghou:

                  If parents prefer to send their kids to international school where learning is more fun than all the tuition and scrambling around for notes and papers that schools do not provide, then why should MOE stop them even if they live and work here?


                  Isn't this their personal choice? So back to this thread - if MOE would like every local kid to be in local school then why should he/she not be given priority?

                  Since govt has given the go ahead for international schools like ACS (international), SJI I and HCI to operate, why not allow primary schools to go independent too ? If rich parents send their littles one to international primary schools, then there will be more vacancies for mainstream primary schools, esp popular ones. Then we won't have another Jim Rogers taking up a place in Phase 2B in NYPS.

                  What if this does get the go-ahead and the international primary schools hire some of the best teachers, have the best processes etc. All the while somehow the kids are having fun and still do well for PSLE (assuming that PSLE is still compulsory for all regardless of whether you're in international or local schools).

                  Will there come a time when other parents will cry foul and say it's not fair that the rich are able to send their kids to these international schools while the rest have to attend your local primary schools who may not have the best teachers/processes?

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                    1amber
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                    Don’t think so. As someone pointed out, the system, processes and KPIs are different between local primary schools and international IB schools Y1-Y5. Like apples are apples and and oranges are oranges. So no need to worry that all the best teachers who can teach apples well will get hired to teach oranges. Otherwise, even before asking for transfer from an apple school to an orange school, we will hear of many teachers wanting transfers to top local apple schools.

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                      Baby_May_09
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                      I think that the current situation of primary one registration is quite ridiculous. Even if you only want your kid to go to a better neighborhood school near your house, you have to do PV for a chance to ballot. Before I have any kids, I used to tell myself not to be so kiasu, don’t need to do PV, but now PV has become the norm so I may be ‘forced’ to do PV. For some popular schools, you may not even get selected for PV. I can see the reasons for all the phases ie. Phase 1 for practical reasons, phase 2A for ties of old boys/girls to the school, phase 2B for all contributions recognized ie clan, church and grassroots.


                      I do not know how MOE is going to change the registration process, but I hope it will somehow be better than the situation now. However it is a zero sum game, certain group of people will be better off after the change and certain group of people will be worse off.

                      That being the case, personally, I would prefer that priority be given to
                      Singaporean kid at all phases.

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                        huanghou
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                        Baby_May_09:
                        I think that the current situation of primary one registration is quite ridiculous. Even if you only want your kid to go to a better neighborhood school near your house, you have to do PV for a chance to ballot. Before I have any kids, I used to tell myself not to be so kiasu, don't need to do PV...

                        I used to think so too...not anymore...have since repented...hee hee :nailbite:

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