All About 2011 GCE A-Level Examination Results
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Thanks Kiaaik for the statistics on VJC.
Let us use VJC as an example to compute a jc’s academic performance.
Cohort size; take for example is 800(hypothectical only).
No of students attained at least 87.5 pts =273.
No of students attained at least 86.25 pts=?
No of atudents attained at least 85.0 pts = ?
No of students attained at least 83.75 pts = ?
No of students attained at least 82.5 pts = ?
No of students attained at least 81.25 pts =?
No of students attained at least 80.0 pts = X
Using X/800, what is the percentage? The % should be at least 78% to reflect VJC’s status as a tier 1 jc. Anything lower than that is considered to be a disappointment not withstanding the no of distinctions scored by its good students.
Similary, we can measure its results base on the % of students achieving quality passes of ABB H2 and above.
On the strength of their statistics revealed to-date, their 2011 cohort has performed well. -
What grade is needed for a NTU / NUS Business course today? I remember in my time, early 90s, a "ABC" grade will do.
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Edureach:
i think you are right, but without sufficient info, using no of distinctions in 3 and above H2 contents, is just an easy way out. it still gives some indication though.In assessing the overall performance of an individual jc, i feel we need to evalute their mean score which closely reflect their cohort performance in general. This benchmark has already taken into full consideration our local unis entry criteria.
The other factor as i had outlined earlier is based on 3H2 contents. This is generally use by good unis word-wide.
Simply quoting no of students scoring the no of distinctions does not
reflect the cohort's performance. An average high scorer in PSLE or O-level needs to know his/her potential outcome when choosing their choice of schools to study.
If more schools would to publish the above stastistics on their web-sites, we can accurately define the individual school's academic perforamance taking into account the quality of their annual students intake. -
Zhuge:
I found an interesting website with the composition of students at TJC.can the no of 3 H2 distinctions and above for tjc deduce from here?
http://www.tjc.edu.sg/images/tjc%202011%20a%20levels%20highlights%20for%20website.pdf
http://blogging4myself.blogspot.com/2012/01/jc1-cohort-composition-at-temasek-jc.html
Basically, most of the students that get in through JAE after O levels are from Chung Cheng High Main, AHS, Cat High etc... as you can see from the link. That adds up to about 500++ for JAE intake. With their own approximately 200 IPs students. It adds up to cohort size of about 750.
In the link that Zhuge provides, they have 312 students with 3 or 4 distinctions (excluding PW, GP and HMT). Let's assume that the bulk of these distinctions are H2 subjects and not H3 or other H1 subjects. We can then deduce that the most TJC has for at least 3 or more H2 disticntions is 312 students.
312 divides by cohort size, 750. Some people say that the cohort size is 579 which I don't believe. 312 divides by 750 gives 41.6%. We can probably believe that TJC has the figure around 40%. -
WeiHan:
Edureach estimated VJ cohort to be 800. It is more likely to be 850 based on total strength of 1700 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Junior_College
I found an interesting website with the composition of students at TJC.Zhuge:
can the no of 3 H2 distinctions and above for tjc deduce from here?
http://www.tjc.edu.sg/images/tjc%202011%20a%20levels%20highlights%20for%20website.pdf
http://blogging4myself.blogspot.com/2012/01/jc1-cohort-composition-at-temasek-jc.html
Basically, most of the students that get in through JAE after O levels are from Chung Cheng High Main, AHS, Cat High etc... as you can see from the link. That adds up to about 500++ for JAE intake. With their own approximately 200 IPs students. It adds up to cohort size of about 750.
In the link that Zhuge provides, they have 312 students with 3 or 4 distinctions (excluding PW, GP and HMT). Let's assume that the bulk of these distinctions are H2 subjects and not H3 or other H1 subjects. We can then deduce that the most TJC has for at least 3 or more H2 disticntions is 312 students.
312 divides by cohort size, 750. Some people say that the cohort size is 579 which I don't believe. 312 divides by 750 gives 41.6%. We can probably believe that TJC has the figure around 40%.
TJ cohort could be 900 based on total strength of 1800
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temasek_Junior_College
That's a very good site you found, weihan.
could the cohort 754-528 (listed schools) = 226 be from IP OR from other schools not listed?
School Pupils
Chung Cheng 71 9.4%
Anglican High 69 9.2%
TKGS 58 7.7%
Cedar Girls' 46 6.1%
Victoria 39 5.2%
Temasek Sec 38 5.0%
TKSS 36 4.8%
Maris Stella 31 4.1%
St. Nicholas 29 3.8%
MGS 28 3.7%
Ngee Ann 27 3.6%
Zhonghua 23 3.1%
Xinmin 21 2.8%
Crescent Girls' 12 1.6%
total 528 70.0%
Cohort total 754 -
thsheng99:
Yes, all along the 5 top JCs are always there. In recent years, RJC and HCJC have surged further. This may not be a good thing for Singapore. Ngiam Tong Dow has said that the best students should not all be in one or two schools but spread all over Singapore.
In those days, to be fair, NJC and TJC did very well too.kiaaik:
VJC was No 1 in the JC ranking for 1995 and 2001. It was second in many years. Compare with those years, VJC has dropped further behind RJC and HCJC. This is due to the Integrated Programme at RJC and HCJC, and it does not help when the top VS students opt to go to RJC in recent years. With the IP in VS and Cedar now, hope VJC can compete with RJC and HCJC again.
Apart from these, RJC, HCJC and VJC have very long traditions and excelled in many CCAs besides academically.
However, it seems that currently, RI and HCI are both in a league of their own whereas the other first tier JCs seemed to have slowly fall behind -
kiaaik:
But then I thought, all along, PSC scholars have always been concentrated in the two JCs?
Yes, all along the 5 top JCs are always there. In recent years, RJC and HCJC have surged further. This may not be a good thing for Singapore. Ngiam Tong Dow has said that the best students should not all be in one or two schools but spread all over Singapore.
I remember the comment about best students in 1-2 schools. But then, these students chose the two schools on their own will. If they qualified to choose any schools and they choose to go to school A, is it right for the authority to dictate that he has to go to school B instead (so that the talents are more evenly distributed?)
I think the system is fair. Singaporeans only have themselves to be blamed for the phenomenon that we see. -
WeiHan:
Probably in the recent years.
But then I thought, all along, PSC scholars have always been concentrated in the two JCs?kiaaik:
Yes, all along the 5 top JCs are always there. In recent years, RJC and HCJC have surged further. This may not be a good thing for Singapore. Ngiam Tong Dow has said that the best students should not all be in one or two schools but spread all over Singapore.
I remember the comment about best students in 1-2 schools. But then, these students chose the two schools on their own will. If they qualified to choose any schools and they choose to go to school A, is it right for the authority to dictate that he has to go to school B instead (so that the talents are more evenly distributed?)
I think the system is fair. Singaporeans only have themselves to be blamed for the phenomenon that we see.
If you look at the the old VJC college magazines, there are many scholars, especially in the police force and army.
With more IP schools, the talent will be more evenly distributed. -
WeiHan:
Having too many talents concentrated in two JCs is no good for Singapore as it will lead to group think as future policy makers mostly come from the scholar pool.
I think the system is fair. Singaporeans only have themselves to be blamed for the phenomenon that we see.
Government cannot dictate, but can intervene. One notable example was that no appeal for DSAed students aftr release of PSLE results.
In the past, scholars come from more varied JCs. During my time, in mid 1980s, President scholars come from non top 5 JC.
1984 - CJC
1985 - ACJC
Hopefully, with more IP schools, we will have future talents groomed in different environments. -
Louis:
DSA can't really stop most GEPers from clustering into one particular school. It is already happening and is getting worse. \"no appeal for DSAed students aftr release of PSLE results.\" doesn't really help much.
Having too many talents concentrated in two JCs is no good for Singapore as it will lead to group think as future policy makers mostly come from the scholar pool.WeiHan:
I think the system is fair. Singaporeans only have themselves to be blamed for the phenomenon that we see.
Government cannot dictate, but can intervene. One notable example was that no appeal for DSAed students aftr release of PSLE results.
In the past, scholars come from more varied JCs. During my time, in mid 1980s, President scholars come from non top 5 JC.
1984 - CJC
1985 - ACJC
Hopefully, with more IP schools, we will have future talents groomed in different environments.
Just a few years back, we have president scholars from ACJC and CJC as well.Just that it has always been the case that 1-2 JCs dominate.
I am not sure if more IP schools will help? How does it helps if all GEPers and top PSLE scoreres insist that they prefer a certain school? I think it may have become worse after the IP, instead of two dominating JCs, we now have one dominating JC.
Thus, \"I think the system is fair. Singaporeans only have themselves to be blamed for the phenomenon that we see\"
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