MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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limlim:
I like the analogy above and thought of another possible example to share for friendly discussion:
Very nice analogy!!
But hor.. ask you hor.. You pay for your kid's education only OR the whole village pay for most of it?
If the rest of the village pays most of it..
then why should they let you have priority? :evil:
we shd not forget that Govt schools are funded by all the tax payers.. not only alumni.. even thou they have contributed in 1 way or the other.
Think our Public Housing (eg HDB). It is build by government, using tax payers money (whole village), to provide affordable housing for its citizen. Without it and if all houses are build and sold by private developer, some may not be able to afford it in their lifetime. So we are appreciative.
But I notice these Public Housing (not sure if 100% but I know most) are leasehold (capped) 99 years. Why not make it Freehold so the first generation that bought the flat, lived in it for many years, bring in the furniture, paint it every 3 years, have party in the house, clean the house everyday, raise fund to repair the house etc.....since these dwellers have done so much work for the house, shouldn't they deserve to own this house forever so that they could pass the house on to their offsprings?
How come over here it is not: one generation pay and lived in it so their offsprings gets \"automatic\" timeless unconditional right over the ownership and entitlement of this house?
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chamonix:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
CactusInDesert:
My post merely reflects whatever the alumni supporters deem as fine aren't necessarily fine for others. That's where the 'unfairness' comes into picture for us. (If you want to look at it from a distance vs alumni perspective, I can't stop you either.)
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:chamonix:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they?
On our part, we have never felt any bitterness. To us, school A is just as good/bad as school B lah.
You are right on one issue - it's all about self-interest in this registration matter. There is no real basis to preserve any particular group. :evil: -
CactusInDesert:
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned. :evil:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:chamonix:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
dorisp:
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned. :evil:[/quote] :goodpost:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:CactusInDesert:
[quote=\"chamonix\"]
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
CactusInDesert wrote:
chamonix wrote:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn’t they?
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda.
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody’s business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned.
Well said . Lots of self centre individuals . If you really die die must let your children enter that particular school , do something , do not complaint this , complain that … Not alumni members , want to strap alumni , never do PV , want to scrap off PV. Some neighbourhood had more 3 primary school around example Bedok … Feng Shan , red swastika , Yu neng within 1 km … All want register red swastika … Cannot enter blame alumni … Blame PV but never do much , cross hand cross leg do nothing but say not fair this not fair that … Yes it sound wow to me when parents rent out their own flat to rent a flat near famous school … Ah yo to me it is great extent but the parents taking extra mile !
Yes all parents pay tax but so … ?? Change half of the school name to nanyang la … Then all can famous school la is it !!!
When someone propose to scrape GEP some parents not happy say it is out of jealousy … Parents in KS really cynical … -
mother3:
:goodpost:CactusInDesert wrote:
chamonix wrote:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they?
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda.
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned.
Well said . Lots of self centre individuals . If you really die die must let your children enter that particular school , do something , do not complaint this , complain that .... Not alumni members , want to strap alumni , never do PV , want to scrap off PV. Some neighbourhood had more 3 primary school around example Bedok ... Feng Shan , red swastika , Yu neng within 1 km ... All want register red swastika ... Cannot enter blame alumni .... Blame PV but never do much , cross hand cross leg do nothing but say not fair this not fair that .... Yes it sound wow to me when parents rent out their own flat to rent a flat near famous school .... Ah yo to me it is great extent but the parents taking extra mile !
Yes all parents pay tax but so ..... ?? Change half of the school name to nanyang la ... Then all can famous school la is it !!!!
When someone propose to scrape GEP some parents not happy say it is out of jealousy ... Parents in KS really cynical ...
Beside St hilda's there is junyuan .. one is Hot cake every year and other has plenty of seats even after 2c every year !!
so how! -
mother3:
Well said . Lots of self centre individuals . If you really die die must let your children enter that particular school , do something , do not complaint this , complain that .... Not alumni members , want to strap alumni , never do PV , want to scrap off PV. Some neighbourhood had more 3 primary school around example Bedok ... Feng Shan , red swastika , Yu neng within 1 km ... All want register red swastika ... Cannot enter blame alumni .... Blame PV but never do much , cross hand cross leg do nothing but say not fair this not fair that .... Yes it sound wow to me when parents rent out their own flat to rent a flat near famous school .... Ah yo to me it is great extent but the parents taking extra mile !
Yes all parents pay tax but so ..... ?? Change half of the school name to nanyang la ... Then all can famous school la is it !!!!
When someone propose to scrape GEP some parents not happy say it is out of jealousy ... Parents in KS really cynical ...
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Lyddon:
You already say for simplicity of illustration mah.. no need too hardcore on the exact numbers...... :evil: :evil:
Note that I did not mention there are 100 families or 100 children planning to enrol. The demand across the whole of singapore is anybody's guess. I also mention the only priority is based on distance. No phase 1, 2A, and 2B. -
dorisp:
Fair because you think alumni is more important than founders?
Fair!Nebbermind:
[quote=\"dorisp\"]
Now church and clan falls under 2B, behind 2A.
Any views? :scratchhead:
[/quote]Important? I wouldn't use that to describe the relationship.
Alumni are product of the schools....like the children.
Founders (association etc) played/plays a important role in the school but members are only related through affiliation....somewhat like cousins.
Children vs cousins...well, of course others can choose to see it in other ways.
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