MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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chamonix:
Not that he chose not to do (1) to (5), but just that he was never given a chance to contribute to the school.
For most singaporeans, contribution of (1) to (5) is done ... in another school. It's their decision whether they want to apply to their alma mater or not.
If it's because their school has closed and he has lost his alma mater... I am sorry that his contributions has come to naught. -
Lyddon:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
Alumni, being also a villager, also pays $x. On top of that:
1) he (or parents) pays $y donation for help school building / faciliaties improvement.
2) He, together with the rest of his classmates (with teachers & parents help) study hard and indirectly build up strong academic performance of school.
3) where there are certain talents, he spends extra time and effort to participate in national / international competitions and put the school in pride of place amongst other leading competing institutions.
4) He participates in school-lead social / community events - representing his school in contributing back to the community and the less privileged.
5) He does this for 6 years.
Now back to our non-alumni villager who pays $x, ... what else did he contribute to the school?
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they?
After all, all the schools we went to are our alma maters, our nourishing mothers, aren't they?
That will save us from the PSLE nightmare, the unhealthy competition, stress, unnecessary acceleration that resulted from sending kids to enrichment centres/tuitions, etc.
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I have nothing against the alumni/clans-related/PV having privileges in primary one school registration.
I have nothing against those alumni/clans-related/PV who stay far away yet willing to drive their kids to certain schools.
After all, who is to comment if they don't mind spending extra time/money to ferry their kids to a school further away? It is their choice.
What I cannot understand is:
Why couldn't my child join a school less than 2km away from home?
I had to enrol him in a school more than 2km away, certainly not by choice.
(Just because there are some who think 2km - 5km is a reasonable distance to travel to and fro?)
Why was I forced to spend more money (petrol) and time to drive my child to a school further away?
I did mind very much spending these unnecessary money and time.
(Just because there are those who can afford that kind of money and time?)
Why couldn't my child have extra 15 minutes of sleep?
Instead he had to wake up earlier to get ready for school.
(Just because there are some who think it is fine for their kids to sleep less or on the car or skip breakfast?)
For the record, we had been staying at the same address since he was born. Yet, we could not enjoy the benefits of staying close to the school (not even a branded school) because of alumni and church-related applicants.
Unfairness or fairness of the system? Just our luck?
So, if all the connections are scrapped or accorded less importance, I don't see any fairness or unfairness involved either. If there are any unfavourable changes made to certain groups, it's just unfortunate (for the group/groups) that the Ministry of Education has decided other attributes should take precedence over parental's past contributions or connections.
But, knowing our government, it's quite unlikely there will be any drastic changes. At least not for the immediate future. I'll be awfully surprised if there's a major haul in the primary one school registration exercise this year. -
limlim:
I like the analogy above and thought of another possible example to share for friendly discussion:
Very nice analogy!!
But hor.. ask you hor.. You pay for your kid's education only OR the whole village pay for most of it?
If the rest of the village pays most of it..
then why should they let you have priority? :evil:
we shd not forget that Govt schools are funded by all the tax payers.. not only alumni.. even thou they have contributed in 1 way or the other.
Think our Public Housing (eg HDB). It is build by government, using tax payers money (whole village), to provide affordable housing for its citizen. Without it and if all houses are build and sold by private developer, some may not be able to afford it in their lifetime. So we are appreciative.
But I notice these Public Housing (not sure if 100% but I know most) are leasehold (capped) 99 years. Why not make it Freehold so the first generation that bought the flat, lived in it for many years, bring in the furniture, paint it every 3 years, have party in the house, clean the house everyday, raise fund to repair the house etc.....since these dwellers have done so much work for the house, shouldn't they deserve to own this house forever so that they could pass the house on to their offsprings?
How come over here it is not: one generation pay and lived in it so their offsprings gets \"automatic\" timeless unconditional right over the ownership and entitlement of this house?
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chamonix:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
CactusInDesert:
My post merely reflects whatever the alumni supporters deem as fine aren't necessarily fine for others. That's where the 'unfairness' comes into picture for us. (If you want to look at it from a distance vs alumni perspective, I can't stop you either.)
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:chamonix:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they?
On our part, we have never felt any bitterness. To us, school A is just as good/bad as school B lah.
You are right on one issue - it's all about self-interest in this registration matter. There is no real basis to preserve any particular group. :evil: -
CactusInDesert:
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned. :evil:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:chamonix:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
dorisp:
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned. :evil:[/quote] :goodpost:
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda. :evil:CactusInDesert:
[quote=\"chamonix\"]
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they? -
CactusInDesert wrote:
chamonix wrote:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn’t they?
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda.
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody’s business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned.
Well said . Lots of self centre individuals . If you really die die must let your children enter that particular school , do something , do not complaint this , complain that … Not alumni members , want to strap alumni , never do PV , want to scrap off PV. Some neighbourhood had more 3 primary school around example Bedok … Feng Shan , red swastika , Yu neng within 1 km … All want register red swastika … Cannot enter blame alumni … Blame PV but never do much , cross hand cross leg do nothing but say not fair this not fair that … Yes it sound wow to me when parents rent out their own flat to rent a flat near famous school … Ah yo to me it is great extent but the parents taking extra mile !
Yes all parents pay tax but so … ?? Change half of the school name to nanyang la … Then all can famous school la is it !!!
When someone propose to scrape GEP some parents not happy say it is out of jealousy … Parents in KS really cynical … -
mother3:
:goodpost:CactusInDesert wrote:
chamonix wrote:
Though I am a non-alumni (primary school) villager, I would still support the cause of alumni if the same privilege is accorded to alumni of secondary schools, junior colleges, and maybe even tertiary institutions.
By virtue of the argument above, my children should be entitled the same treatment as the alumni in primary schools when they embarked on their next level of education, shouldn't they?
See? Just because u are not alumni of a school u wanted, u are asking qns on unfairness relating to distance to a pri school near ur hse. Everyone here has his/her own agenda.
That is because schools are not privately owned. Fair enough that some priority and privileges is to be given to those who put in relatively more effort than their neighbour but when these priority and privileges start to become unreasonable and is done at the expense of another possibly deserving citizen family , it then becomes everybody's business (whether it is about their own agenda or not) because these schools are not privately owned.
Well said . Lots of self centre individuals . If you really die die must let your children enter that particular school , do something , do not complaint this , complain that .... Not alumni members , want to strap alumni , never do PV , want to scrap off PV. Some neighbourhood had more 3 primary school around example Bedok ... Feng Shan , red swastika , Yu neng within 1 km ... All want register red swastika ... Cannot enter blame alumni .... Blame PV but never do much , cross hand cross leg do nothing but say not fair this not fair that .... Yes it sound wow to me when parents rent out their own flat to rent a flat near famous school .... Ah yo to me it is great extent but the parents taking extra mile !
Yes all parents pay tax but so ..... ?? Change half of the school name to nanyang la ... Then all can famous school la is it !!!!
When someone propose to scrape GEP some parents not happy say it is out of jealousy ... Parents in KS really cynical ...
Beside St hilda's there is junyuan .. one is Hot cake every year and other has plenty of seats even after 2c every year !!
so how!
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