S'poreans to get priority for P1 places during balloting
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NO hostility towards good PRs with genuine liking for Singapore and wanting to eventually convert to become SC.
I have two ex-colleagues.
One, a Malaysian - stayed in Singapore since her toddler days, her family is here and they don’t miss one bit of Malaysia. She is in Actuarial profession.
When she hangs out with us (SC) for lunch, she is totally like one. She likes the safety here, cleanliness, etc. She was not in International school but primary and secondary here; tertiary overseas but still wants to come back coz her family is here and she (they) likes it here. [PS: i don’t know her primary school; i just graduated and not a parent yet]
I remembered we were all anxiously waiting and hoping she passed the interview.
I welcome with open arms when she finally converts to SC.
Another colleague.
PRC lady - Analyst with reknown international firm.
She came here to study at NUS because in her own words "All the good/famous universities in my country - i can’t enter! The people in my country are just way too smart (i won’t deny and believe) for me to fight for a place there"… "here, i apply - my grades are good enough to enter into faculty of my choice".
She got married, bought a flat here with her hubby (also PRC) and both become PR - but NEVER would they ever convert to SC, they said.
In her words again "In years to come, China will eventually be the place to be at… plus our home/family is back there so no, i don’t think we will convert to SC. We came here mainly to seek experience…" Hubby then went to US to further studies while she stayed on here 1-2yrs. Her hubby then intended to stay on in US and build his career there; she applied for an internal transfer within her company and B-O-O-M! Off she goes to join him and sold off the flat.
Singapore to them is a "Nice, safe stepping stone".
She is a nice person and I like her but from a Singaporean point of view - i don’t want her to become SC; she think its nice here but and there is always a but in her thinking that Singapore is inferior (in culture compared to China) and elsewhere is always better (be it China or US).
I don’t know about you guys but when i travel overseas and then the moment i landed back in Singapore airport again - i just feel a sense of happiness that i am back. I love the ‘smell’ of even our airport.
Only a SC will feel this way.
That is why SC felt there should be some form of assurance on the P1 registration, i think, which resulted in the very recent move. -
BeContented:
Suddenly a couple of newbies posting in this thread...
:hi5:Daddy
I don't see the need to get personal with rebuttals...
Don't turn this to a SC against PR topic..
:celebrate:
Oldies in disguise?
Internet is serious business...
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Dino_Mummy:
the feeling of home is when you step on board a SIA plane, regardless NYC or LAX or Beijing
I don't know about you guys but when i travel overseas and then the moment i landed back in Singapore airport again - i just feel a sense of happiness that i am back. I love the 'smell' of even our airport.
Only a SC will feel this way.
That is why SC felt there should be some form of assurance on the P1 registration, i think, which resulted in the very recent move. -
phtthp:
Yes, excellent! JoetheSC. :rahrah:JoetheSC, GREAT THUMBS UP! GREAT Rebuttal !
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verykiasu2010:
yes lah.. but in the context of this thread talking about schooling kids more than a decade before they turn 21yo.. that comment is not entirely wrong also......
so there is absolutely no dual citizenship
upon reaching adult decision making age (some countries 18, some 21), the individual has to make a choice, choose one or the other. No two way about it. it is a temporary provision until the person has reached decision-making age
to claim that there is a dual citizenship (without qualifying it) is trying to mislead and inflame.
it is very well known singapore does not permit dual citizenship. it cannot be a unilateral thing that other countries allow SG citizenship while holding their own citizenship
Singapore citizenship rule makes it very clear that the SG citizenship will have to be renounced or revoked if the person is holding another citizenship -
verykiasu2010:
So are we saying that if both parents are PRCs but are PRs in Singapore, their child (under 21) can hold both Singapore and China citizenships? And if that's so, at P1 registration, is the child considered registering under Singapore citizenship (bec he's Singaporean) or under PR (bec both parents are PR?)
so there is absolutely no dual citizenshiplimlim:
PRC don't, but SG does, before the child turns 21yo.
Apply PRC citizenship first, then apply Sg citizen.. ta-da.... dual citizenship.. :evil: :evil:
There are reports on this in the newspaper. PRC scholars holding dual PRC and SG citizenship.
But that fellow have to choose one when she turns 21yo.
upon reaching adult decision making age (some countries 18, some 21), the individual has to make a choice, choose one or the other. No two way about it. it is a temporary provision until the person has reached decision-making age
to claim that there is a dual citizenship (without qualifying it) is trying to mislead and inflame.
it is very well known singapore does not permit dual citizenship. it cannot be a unilateral thing that other countries allow SG citizenship while holding their own citizenship
Singapore citizenship rule makes it very clear that the SG citizenship will have to be renounced or revoked if the person is holding another citizenship -
jtoh:
So are we saying that if both parents are PRCs but are PRs in Singapore, their child (under 21) can hold both Singapore and China citizenships? And if that's so, at P1 registration, is the child considered registering under Singapore citizenship (bec he's Singaporean) or under PR (bec both parents are PR?)[/quote]I thought only if one parent is an SC then the kid can be SC if not will be dependants or PR
so there is absolutely no dual citizenshipverykiasu2010:
[quote=\"limlim\"]
PRC don't, but SG does, before the child turns 21yo.
Apply PRC citizenship first, then apply Sg citizen.. ta-da.... dual citizenship.. :evil: :evil:
There are reports on this in the newspaper. PRC scholars holding dual PRC and SG citizenship.
But that fellow have to choose one when she turns 21yo.
upon reaching adult decision making age (some countries 18, some 21), the individual has to make a choice, choose one or the other. No two way about it. it is a temporary provision until the person has reached decision-making age
to claim that there is a dual citizenship (without qualifying it) is trying to mislead and inflame.
it is very well known singapore does not permit dual citizenship. it cannot be a unilateral thing that other countries allow SG citizenship while holding their own citizenship
Singapore citizenship rule makes it very clear that the SG citizenship will have to be renounced or revoked if the person is holding another citizenship -
I am blur. If a PR is a clan member or have association or is a church member, does it means it still have priority over a Singaporean who is a non-church member but stays within 1km?
Is this still called Singaporeans have absolute priority?
Shouldn’t the system be opened to Singaporeans first and then a next round for the PRs, depending on how many vacancies are left over? -
Brainkid:
If a PR is a clan member or association and can apply under PHASE 2B, than under phrase 2B, Singaporean will have priority followed by PR.I am blur. If a PR is a clan member or have association or is a church member, does it means it still have priority over a Singaporean who is a non-church member but stays within 1km?
Is this still called Singaporeans have absolute priority?
Shouldn't the system be opened to Singaporeans first and then a next round for the PRs, depending on how many vacancies are left over?
Eg. if there is 50 vacancies in A school (under phrase 2B).
35 Singaporean within 1 km
15 PR within 1 km.
5 Singaporean within 1-2 km
3 PR within 1-2 km
5 Singaporean outside 2 km
2 PR outside 1 km
So priority will be given
1) 35 Singaporean (within 1 KM) (Sure go in)
2) 5 Singaporean (within 1-2 KM) (Sure go in)
3) 5 Singaporean (outside 2 KM) (Sure go in)
4) left with 5 vacancy - ballot by 15 PR (within 1 KM)
so mean 3 PR (within 1-2 km) and 2 PR (outside 2 km) cannot go into A school. -
you are right.
under old rule, PRs ballot with SC head on.
If PR lady luck smiling with him even with 1 ballot slip, PR still manage to get in. Unlucky SC who lost to PR even given 2 balloting slip - feel very sore. SC lost out to another fellow SC can stomach, but SC lost to PR is ... dont know what to say. Is like SC are being treated 2nd class citizen.
under new rule -
in any phase, so long as still have leftover places after ALL Singaporean kids had entered, PR still can enter, before the next immediate phase 1st Singaporean kid in the queue < 1km.
under 2B < 1km hot schools, PRs may still have slight chance. why ? Because not all SC have time to join (PV, clan, church, GRL).
however under 2C hot popular schools, PRs ZERO chance. SC would have snapped up all hot seats for all distances range: < 1km, < 2km, > 2km.
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