MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[Lyddon]

vicki:

Dear Lyddon,

Good try in trying to push the work to others to do. U must be part of 'mgmt' in your office.

However, as a fellow 'colleague' in the 'mgmt' league as well, do note that since this 'proposed priority change discussion - if any' does not affect me at all, i would say - go find another kah kia who will do your bidding.

In the meantime, guess vk2010 is correct - wasting too much ink here.

Since things are beneficial only to the 'connected' or the 'rich' - and so far - i seem to be on the right side of this fence - i shall just accept it - and too bad for fellow SGs then.

Yours Sincerely,
Vicki

Dear Vicki,

I have given my Pro-Alumni opinions here, as have many others. I am agreeable with the current policies and see no need to question them further.

So ... Actually, I am not passing the buck here. I just see no point in rat-holing and repeating opinions to get to an answer.The ultimate answer.

Attempts to arrive at an answer would be tough .... because only MOE has the answer. In a forum, all we can do is exchange opinions, speculate, assume, and propose ideas - if lucky, arrive at something semi-solid. It is only at MOE that there is 'solidification'.

As stated in my post to idad.
There are 131 pages (over 40 days) of opinions shared so far. If none of them as \"solid\" enough to answer THE question, perhaps its time to move to another platform to get a solid answer(s) - once and for all.

We are here for friendly civil debate and opinions (and some crucially timed OT banter). I'm glad to be part of it - just for the fun. However, when the air starts to reek of hostile labeling (eg. act smart) and name calling (eg. hypocrites), it's just really uncalled for.

:offtopic:
Yeah, I am part of 'mgmt' in Office. Pushing work is not the culture here, getting it done most effectively and efficiently by the right resource(s) is the priority.
I will not claim I am rich, though I have more than sufficient for my needs to be met.
I am not simply connected to my alma mater - its more than that. My school is part of who I am.

Yours Sincerely,
Lyddon

[Lyddon]

IDad:

Lyddon:

[quote=\"IDad\"]
Very question....I also very interested to know.

For various individual opinions to that question, I look forward to your generous efforts to comb through the 131 pages and consolidate them in the your next post(s).

Still not satisfied with the possibly one-sided opinions?

Then .... for MOE's official Unbiased stand on this, please call / email them directly and post their reply in this forum - for the benefit of everyone here.

Cheers! Here's a tiger for your efforts.
:celebrate:

If YOU YOURSELF bother to read ALL the posts from#1, you will realise I have been participating in this thread from the beginning. Therefore, do not pretend to act smart and try to brush off mine or Vicki's question. If you do not have any solid reason why alumni deserve priority over church or clan, its better to just keep mum.

Maybe I detest hypocrites who pepper their scarstic remarks with seemingly friendly phrases, if you do not mean it, please spare me the hypocrisy. Its not appreciated nor necessary. I usually ignore or delete such emails because it reflects the writer is either ignorant or trying to act smart. Waste of time....[/quote]Good that you get my sarcastic intent ... though I meant as a friendly reminder that the answer YOU seek is not forthcoming from this forum... especially after 40 days and 131 pages (my posts/opinions included). Pity you responded the way you did....

Considering that you participated for 40 days and 131 pages of posts and there is no safisfactory answer to a question YOU are interested. Isn't it time to take the next step and get a definitive answer ... from MOE perhaps? It's your choice, of course. I merely pointed to MOE to get the absolute solid 'answer' you seek. If you are offended by that, then don't contact MOE.

... Or maybe you are just very patient and hope MOE or Mr Heng to respond to this forum to give (I quote) \" solid reason why alumni deserve priority over church or clan\".

Keep mum? I am smart enough to know you have no admins right nor the 'solid' justification to request admin to do so.

Note to all forumers, if you do not have (I quote again) \"solid reason why alumni deserve priority over church or clan\" ... be prepare to be told to keep mum too.

Like many others, I have clearly given my opinions on this topic. If you think the pro-alumni views posted so far are not solid enough, it would be futile to repeat or consolidate them for you.

I am perfectly contented with the current Pri.1 registration policies and see no need to question further or seek 'solid' answers.

[phtthp]

whoever interested to find out \"solid reason (s) why alumni deserve priority over church or clan\", kindly write in to MOE inquire. Email is [email protected]


http://www.moe.gov.sg/about/contact/

however, you may also direct this question to the particular Officer in charge, if you happen to know who is in charge:-

http://app.sgdi.gov.sg/listing.asp?agency_subtype=dept&agency_id=0000000003

then the Truth will set you free.
Arguments will stop. PEACE.

[Lyddon]

Peace to solid truth(s), answer(s) and reason(s).


I share my virtual Tiger with MOE and their office-in-charge (after office hours, of course).
:celebrate:

[laughingcat]

Aiyoh! Still arguing huh after 133 pages.


If want solid answer, ask MOE loh. MOE will definitely give a solid politically \"correct\" answer.

Aiyah.....no point fighting when MOE and policy makers hold all the cards. Peace :xedfingers:

[DesertWind]

limlim:

vicki:

So back to the, wats sooooooooooo special with alumni (2A)?

mebbe they can pass down old school uniform to their kids..? :evil:

Hi limlim,

No kidding, my hubby actually DOES have his primary school hat that now my son is using for his kindergarten! Mind you, we are both not young at all hor, so that is how long he has kept it. Now when my boy's kindy teacher saw the hat, she also laughed and said \"Daddy's school hat!\".

Yup, from a gem school and we should be sailing in with the alumni priority based on my hubby's old report book. For me, I shake leg reading all these posts, no need for me to PV, buy house, do anything to climb up the ladder. Just ride on hubby's \"monarchy\" rights, father-in-law's foresight eons ago to get a letter from the church to go into this highly-demanded school.

Ya, I know, it is not fair right? But I am so..so...thankful to have escaped from the super stressful P1 registration process otherwise.

Eat your hearts out man! :boogie:

[By the way, I think I have never said this before, but I actually would much prefer my boy go into a CO-ED school instead of this all-boys gem school. Was half-hoping MOE will do away with the alumni thingy so that my hubby cannot insist anymore. Then I can go shopping for an interesting CO-ED school nearby our place. But now.... Don't tomato me hor! :siam: ]

[Dino_Mummy]

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dorisp:

limlim:

[quote=\"Dino_Mummy\"]
3boys,

On verykiasu2010's comment - \"BUT this is not because suddenly more alumni started to send kids to the schools -- this is because the school reduces the intake in order to switch to 100% single session / or in the process of converting to single session\" - i don't think its nonsense!

As long as a school converts from two (AM and PM) to single session, it is almost certain, the intake will be affected. Realistically, this does affect.

Capped on Alumni - i agree. But there are other factors that may affect the number of vacancies too.

Reducing the intake definitely will have impact, no doubt about it, no matter which way you look at it, left, right, up, down or center.

If you did not get a place, it is surely a contributing factor.

However, it is irrelevant to the discussion on whether alumni should have priority.

When we debate about priority, we're almost always talking about limited resources. It does NOT matter WHY the resource is limited, whether due to reduction of places or bumper crop of dragon year babies or whatever reason.

If the resources is not limited, there is no need for any debate on priority.

If you're talking about increasing intake or whatever \"remedies\" (I say, \"IF\"), it only affects the need for priority, which is irrelevant to this discussion.

This discussion is mainly on why alumni should have priority over other factors, isn't it?

:goodpost:[/quote]How come never reply post on vk2010 or LOLMum's post on this huh? :?

[vicki]

Lyddon:

[Dear Vicki,


I have given my Pro-Alumni opinions here, as have many others. I am agreeable with the current policies and see no need to question it further.

So ... Actually, I am not passing the buck here. I just see no point in rat-holing and repeating opinions to get to an answer.The ultimate answer.

Attempts to arrive at an answer would be tough .... because only MOE has the answer. In a forum, all we can do is exchange opinions, speculate, assume, and propose ideas - if lucky, arrive at something semi-solid. It is only at MOE that there is 'solidification'.

As stated in my post to idad.
There are 131 pages (over 40 days) of opinions shared so far. If none of them as \"solid\" enough to answer THE question, perhaps its time to move to another platform to get a solid answer(s) - once and for all.

We are here for friendly civil debate and opinions (and some crucially timed OT banter). I'm glad to be part of it - just for the fun. However, when the air starts to reek of hostile labeling (eg. act smart) and name calling (eg. hypocrites), it's just really uncalled for.

:offtopic:
Yeah, I am part of 'mgmt' in Office. Pushing work is not the culture here, getting it done most effectively and efficiently by the right resource(s) is the priority.
I will not claim I am rich, though I have more than sufficient for my needs to be met.
I am not simply connected to my alma mater - its more than that. My school is part of who I am.

Yours Sincerely,
Lyddon

Dear Lyddon,

:offtopic:

You just reminded me. Generally,
- Most pple who push work to others always dont think they are doing so.
- Most pple who think they are doing things efficiently and effectively are often so - cos they delegate.
- Most pple who claim they are not rich are often very rich - cos stingy mah - how can let pple know - otherwise pple will ask for treats...
- Most pple who think they are connected to their school, probably are - and probably is a little 'atas' also - ie, my genes et all deserve the best - and probably several others in that school also has such similar attitude too.
- Most pple who pass sacarstic remarks rarely think they are - cos they are so in-built into the way of passing their comments - they just cant see it.

Yup - we are all here to share our friendly opinions and just like the many times i feel :stupid: cos either the same qns are asked or pple who mis-interpret the regulations wrongly and hence mislead others around - i believe inthusfar - most pple are still decently polite (albeit with a slight irritated tone) in their reply.

Obviously i do not take to pple who speaks with sacarsm well, esp those who think they are 'smarty pants'.

So, good to know you, my friend.

Yours Sincerely,
Vicki

[vicki]

laughingcat:

Aiyoh! Still arguing huh after 133 pages.


If want solid answer, ask MOE loh. MOE will definitely give a solid politically \"correct\" answer.

Aiyah.....no point fighting when MOE and policy makers hold all the cards. Peace :xedfingers:

Since it doesnt affect me liao.... am just seating around to see whats their next step (after this year's registration), if any.

Believe nothing new will come out now cos any changes will affect this year's batch - be it whether changes are made for this year or next - and it will leave a sour note on alot of parents if the announcement is made now.

Haha - if i were a stakeholder, ie, have kids registrating in later phases in coming years - you can be sure i would probably write in to MOE...

Other than that - i think i will be a passive bystander who will grumble abt how 'incorrect' the system is.....

[dorisp]

Dino_Mummy:

How come never reply post on vk2010 or LOLMum's post on this huh? :?

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