Principal of top school under investigation for hiring prost

[hokkiengirl]

Erm, I think the thing that most people are concerned about is that the girl is punished for her role in this whole mess. I totally understand that. Humans have a natural instinct for justice to be served. Even very small children will get angry if the sibling is not punished for a wrongdoing that they themselves are punished for. I think that the girl will get her comeuppance. I just strongly disagree that her photo should have been made public. This is probably a part of her punishment:


1) Her family is informed by the police about her involvement in the case and give her hell. Her parents are likely totally devastated and furious and shamed.
2) She lives in fear of how this will affect her future.
3) She will probably be sent for some rehabilitation programme, maybe in a Girls’ Home? From what I’ve heard, it’s no party and it can get quite tough in there.
4) I am sure there are other things.

Beyond that, what do you want to happen to her? To go into some cage to be drowned? To go to jail? Really? I say let the appropriate punishment be meted out to her. It is not for the public to demand for her blood in vague terms. Let the correct degree of justice be served. Neither too LITTLE nor too MUCH. Like it or not, she is still considered a minor under law.

[buds]

3Boys:

Chenonceau:

The view from a mature woman's perspective is very different. It does not mean it has no validity... and it does not mean you are wrong. Thankfully, we have hokkiengirl, sun, funz etc... who CAN represent the perspective of mature women with duaghters, because if this thread contained only the male perspective, it would be a very one-sided thread.

KSP is overwhelmingly female in its representation. The odds of a male preponderant opinion holding sway are infinitesimal, to say the least...

Thankfully, there's me. The balanced one. http://emoticoner.com

I'm not just your regular female.

Having been in many been there n done that's.. sharing the ordeals and turbulences of other female counterparts and also many painful pasts of my own I care not to remember.. (for the sake of moving on) .. I can understand the feelings of the ground from both sides of the fence.

While I'm not obliged to kiss n tell, know that for the man or the girl in question... moving on... in all positivity... is waaayyy harder than how it's phrased. Rebuilding a scarred relationship.. reinventing n finding oneself thru harsh times.. even with the utmost sincerity will take a verrryyy long time. When it boils down to broken trust the repair can cost one a lifetime.

[3Boys]

buds:

3Boys:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
The view from a mature woman's perspective is very different. It does not mean it has no validity... and it does not mean you are wrong. Thankfully, we have hokkiengirl, sun, funz etc... who CAN represent the perspective of mature women with duaghters, because if this thread contained only the male perspective, it would be a very one-sided thread.

KSP is overwhelmingly female in its representation. The odds of a male preponderant opinion holding sway are infinitesimal, to say the least...

Thankfully, there's me. The balanced one. http://emoticoner.com

I'm not just your regular female.[/quote] :celebrate: Thanks my dear.

[buds]

I always get you, bro.. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php


And plus, now I have two daughters and two sons to fall back on reason. In case, that might be needed as baseline. See! I'm balanced even when it comes to that.

THERE IS ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO A COIN.

PS. I just edited my last post. Hit submit button too fast. :oops:

[Imami]

Chenonceau:

But this one is a child. To become a prostitute at 17, her sexual initiation must have started way before. WHO was it who seduced her at 14? 15? 16? Where were her parents when she was 13 or 14 and hanging out in malls till the wee hours of the night?

I went onto part-time work many years ago because of 2 things. I toured an SPF lock-up facility and saw a EIGHT year old little boy. 2 days later, The Husband and I stole some time to catch a midnight movie. On the way home, I saw a little girl with heavy make-up and a body that was beginning to develop in interesting ways loitering in the hallway to the carpark. I thought she must have been about 14.

These 2 experiences shook me. My daughter was scoring poorly at school. Teachers complained about her. She complained about Teachers. She was in P4. I quit my job and stayed home for a year. In one year, DD moved from bottom to top. She later went to a top school, and graduated from A levels with 8 distinctions. During one of her CIP involvement in Sec 3, someone (a man in his 20s) told her a joke she didn't understand. She came home to ask me. I have vague memories of the joke... something about a father peeing in a mothers mouth.

I HIT THE ROOF BIGTIME.

My DD is not a prostitute because I was there to watch over her sexual imprinting... to ensure that she understands the sexual eperience from MY viewpoint. I was the one who personally gave her the sex talk and I also do it for my son.

Do you think this 17 year old had a Mother like me?

:goodpost:

Agree. That's why I made a career switch two years ago. I could have been a financial controller if I had stayed on that job but I decided to become a clerk in order to be a part of my child's growing up years. I reckon the furthest I could have gone is being a CFO or a something and I probably could have earned a million before I am 40. But nothing can buy my child's growing up years back, even if I give up my million(s).

I decide that it's more worth while to be a part of my child's life.

[Imami]

limlim:

Juz for laughs..

3Boys:

[quote=\"toddles\"]and if they have no religious compass, what is there really to stop them? values are very subjective these days.

Subjective and relative.....

Dangerous times for kids

http://i.imgur.com/M35PX.jpg\">[/quote] :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[fightingmom]

Imami:

:goodpost:

Agree. That's why I made a career switch two years ago. I could have been a financial controller if I had stayed on that job but I decided to become a clerk in order to be a part of my child's growing up years. I reckon the furthest I could have gone is being a CFO or a something and I probably could have earned a million before I am 40. But nothing can buy my child's growing up years back, even if I give up my million(s).

I decide that it's more worth while to be a part of my child's life.

Yes, nothing can be compared to the important responsibility as a parent to be there to nurture our children and be part of their life ... they just grow up so fast !

[phtthp]

a) does it mean that once if any of the 48 men admit guilty, means straightaway they go jail for 7 years ?


b) does it mean that if any civil servant still dare visit prostitutes aged above the legal age of 18 and are discovered, they won't lose their \"iron\" rice bowl ? at very most, lose reputation but career still retained, or internal transfer out to some other department to work ?

[cnimed]

Imami:

Chenonceau:

But this one is a child. To become a prostitute at 17, her sexual initiation must have started way before. WHO was it who seduced her at 14? 15? 16? Where were her parents when she was 13 or 14 and hanging out in malls till the wee hours of ...

My DD is not a prostitute because I was there to watch over her sexual imprinting... to ensure that she understands the sexual eperience from MY viewpoint. I was the one who personally gave her the sex talk and I also do it for my son.

Do you think this 17 year old had a Mother like me?

:goodpost:

Agree. That's why I made a career switch two years ago. I could have been a financial controller if I had stayed on that job but I decided to become a clerk in order to be a part of my child's growing up years. I reckon the furthest I could have gone is being a CFO or a something and I probably could have earned a million before I am 40. But nothing can buy my child's growing up years back, even if I give up my million(s).
I decide that it's more worth while to be a part of my child's life.

I get where you both are coming from. But besides agreeing with strparent that it takes two hands to clap, I think it can also be construed to be very hurtful to some working mothers who do not have the choice to work part time or stay home. There are mothers who are widowed, stuck with a good for nothing spouse, struggling with debts or simply not well educated enough to have much career choice. All they can do is concentrate on paying the bills and hope that their children will turn out okay.

I personally know a mother in such circumstances. Unknown to her, her daughter was drugged and possibly raped at twelve. And yes, she became a teenage escort, even as she gave her younger sister pocket money, and protected the younger sister from men who wanted to date the younger sister - men in their twenties while the little sister was only thirteen. This escort bakes as a hobby, contributes to grandparents, and has had her ups and downs. She is hardened, she sees herself as tough and cynical...all this time the mother is just working hard at shift work to pay off the husband's debts. It's not always so straight forward.

[cnimed]

I guess what I mean is - not every parent can be a parent like that and that is not necessarily the parents’ fault. And sometimes, even the best of parents will not be able to steer a child away from a certain course. Sorry to have been so long winded above.