Principal of top school under investigation for hiring prost

[cnimed]

Imami:

Chenonceau:

But this one is a child. To become a prostitute at 17, her sexual initiation must have started way before. WHO was it who seduced her at 14? 15? 16? Where were her parents when she was 13 or 14 and hanging out in malls till the wee hours of ...

My DD is not a prostitute because I was there to watch over her sexual imprinting... to ensure that she understands the sexual eperience from MY viewpoint. I was the one who personally gave her the sex talk and I also do it for my son.

Do you think this 17 year old had a Mother like me?

:goodpost:

Agree. That's why I made a career switch two years ago. I could have been a financial controller if I had stayed on that job but I decided to become a clerk in order to be a part of my child's growing up years. I reckon the furthest I could have gone is being a CFO or a something and I probably could have earned a million before I am 40. But nothing can buy my child's growing up years back, even if I give up my million(s).
I decide that it's more worth while to be a part of my child's life.

I get where you both are coming from. But besides agreeing with strparent that it takes two hands to clap, I think it can also be construed to be very hurtful to some working mothers who do not have the choice to work part time or stay home. There are mothers who are widowed, stuck with a good for nothing spouse, struggling with debts or simply not well educated enough to have much career choice. All they can do is concentrate on paying the bills and hope that their children will turn out okay.

I personally know a mother in such circumstances. Unknown to her, her daughter was drugged and possibly raped at twelve. And yes, she became a teenage escort, even as she gave her younger sister pocket money, and protected the younger sister from men who wanted to date the younger sister - men in their twenties while the little sister was only thirteen. This escort bakes as a hobby, contributes to grandparents, and has had her ups and downs. She is hardened, she sees herself as tough and cynical...all this time the mother is just working hard at shift work to pay off the husband's debts. It's not always so straight forward.

[cnimed]

I guess what I mean is - not every parent can be a parent like that and that is not necessarily the parents’ fault. And sometimes, even the best of parents will not be able to steer a child away from a certain course. Sorry to have been so long winded above.

[pinky]

KSP:

for those who have her details pls don't pm (espeically me)... don't get yourself into trouble... and i don't want to be invited for coffee session... :siam:

I got a pm today from someone very active here :evil: :evil: :evil:
same sentiments as above. Not interested to know.

[janet88]

It’s very very sad that this girl slept with so many men at 17. There is nothing proud about it. Even if there is gag order protecting her, one day her identity will be known. No man will hide and word will spread around by those men who slept with her, especially if they go to jail after that encounter.

[Lilac66]

deminc:

I guess what I mean is - not every parent can be a parent like that and that is not necessarily the parents' fault. And sometimes, even the best of parents will not be able to steer a child away from a certain course. Sorry to have been so long winded above.

:goodpost:


We as parents can only do our best in imparting the right values, and then pray that our children will turn out fine.
Know of a very pious and dedicated mother who brought the DD to church every sun from young. When the DD hit her teens, suddenly she told her mum she's tired of being a goody-two shoes and decided her friends' lifestyles seem more exciting, that's when the mother started to \"lose\" her DD.

[friendship]

the root is it because pimp and pros were arguing over money?

pros was angry and threaten the pimp that she will expose all his bad deeds to the police?
pros being investigated and she leaked all the names. So while her men clients were sleeping after sex, she would steal information from the clients’ wallets especially IC, is it?
Don’t think the men clients knew what was the pros’s age. who cares? money rules the world.

[janet88]

friendship:

Don't think the men clients knew what was the pros's age. who cares? money rules the world.

Don't think the men bother to ask her age. They just see her as a prostitute...enjoyment. Just pay her money.
This girl should still be studying...17 or 18. Will her principal know ?

[Imami]

deminc:

Imami:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
But this one is a child. To become a prostitute at 17, her sexual initiation must have started way before. WHO was it who seduced her at 14? 15? 16? Where were her parents when she was 13 or 14 and hanging out in malls till the wee hours of ...

My DD is not a prostitute because I was there to watch over her sexual imprinting... to ensure that she understands the sexual eperience from MY viewpoint. I was the one who personally gave her the sex talk and I also do it for my son.

Do you think this 17 year old had a Mother like me?

:goodpost:

Agree. That's why I made a career switch two years ago. I could have been a financial controller if I had stayed on that job but I decided to become a clerk in order to be a part of my child's growing up years. I reckon the furthest I could have gone is being a CFO or a something and I probably could have earned a million before I am 40. But nothing can buy my child's growing up years back, even if I give up my million(s).
I decide that it's more worth while to be a part of my child's life.

I get where you both are coming from. But besides agreeing with strparent that it takes two hands to clap, I think it can also be construed to be very hurtful to some working mothers who do not have the choice to work part time or stay home. There are mothers who are widowed, stuck with a good for nothing spouse, struggling with debts or simply not well educated enough to have much career choice. All they can do is concentrate on paying the bills and hope that their children will turn out okay.

I personally know a mother in such circumstances. Unknown to her, her daughter was drugged and possibly raped at twelve. And yes, she became a teenage escort, even as she gave her younger sister pocket money, and protected the younger sister from men who wanted to date the younger sister - men in their twenties while the little sister was only thirteen. This escort bakes as a hobby, contributes to grandparents, and has had her ups and downs. She is hardened, she sees herself as tough and cynical...all this time the mother is just working hard at shift work to pay off the husband's debts. It's not always so straight forward.[/quote]I know what you mean and I don't fight that. Choices, like time and money, are limited at times and may not be available to one at all time. precisely because I have a choice, I choose something that I want to believe is the best out of the situation, not just for myself but also people around me. Precisely because my child doesn't not have a choice (he can't choose his parents, can he?) that make me realize I need to make the rit choices for him. Him, that girl and every kid deserves a good chance in life. no, I don't have any sympathy for that girl but I don't want to stone her. I stay neutral towards her.

Of course, I could have done all a good mother can do for a child and yet, my child still goes astray. Well, if I had done my best, then it's just too bad (haiz shd have continued my climb up the corporate ladder!). But if I decides to be selfish and my child turns up the wrong way, do I blame him?? No, it's my fault!

[Imami]

I have a choice and I hope I have made the right choice. But that said, I do not judge the others, especially people you have mentioned. If I may say so, I only feel sorry for them and their kids. If I can, I would help them (not monetary sense, but through helping their kids to pick up reading for I really do believe education is a ticket out of poverty and poverty is the root cause for many social problems). And I will talk to my child about his own good fortune.

[Chenonceau]

deminc:

I get where you both are coming from. But besides agreeing with strparent that it takes two hands to clap, I think it can also be construed to be very hurtful to some working mothers who do not have the choice to work part time or stay home. There are mothers who are widowed, stuck with a good for nothing spouse, struggling with debts or simply not well educated enough to have much career choice. All they can do is concentrate on paying the bills and hope that their children will turn out okay.

I personally know a mother in such circumstances. Unknown to her, her daughter was drugged and possibly raped at twelve. And yes, she became a teenage escort, even as she gave her younger sister pocket money, and protected the younger sister from men who wanted to date the younger sister - men in their twenties while the little sister was only thirteen. This escort bakes as a hobby, contributes to grandparents, and has had her ups and downs. She is hardened, she sees herself as tough and cynical...all this time the mother is just working hard at shift work to pay off the husband's debts. It's not always so straight forward.

Deminc... this is exactly what I meant when I started writing in this thread- http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=749019#p749019. Exactly this!! Except you wrote it more convincingly. I of course agree with strparent that it takes 2 hands to clap THEREFORE when the child goes wrong, we shouldn't point ONLY at the child, which was what everyone was doing except for AutumnBronze... an ex-educator with a heart for girls.

We do not know this 17 year old's story. The above could well BE this 17 year old's story. Do we know for sure it isn't?

Further, I said as much in an earlier post that some parents have no choice... http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=749019#p749019
And even for parents who stay home, some kids turn bad. Why do we have to apportion to... or read (between the lines to find) blame of ...
(1) parents (none was meant)
(2) the girl (much was meant)

Why can't we just note that something terrible has happened and then help the girl (and the men) move on? Is it important to blame someone or read blame of someone between the lines of what was written?