Principal of top school under investigation for hiring prost
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deminc:
Please don't try to throw red herrings by bringing in issues of morality here.Prostitution is not a crime here. Everyone knows that. If you want to go into morality, you can also talk to Talibans about stoning rape victims to death because they have 'enticed' their rapists.
Is there a need to insinuate anything? To compare Anthony Ler and this takes a huge leap of imagination, or is it emotion?
Of course you can hate the prostitute in question, but it is no way near murder and the men are hardly helpless victims.
Prostitution is not a crime; but underaged prostitution is. And underaged prostitution is what we're talking about here. So am I right to say that this is a crime now?
Committing major crimes like murder reaps capital punishment. Committing lesser crimes reaps lesser punishment. Agree?
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No you are not right. You need to read up more. I am referring only to the prostitute in question.
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I am not insinuating anything. It is clear as daylight where the flaws in your statements are. I am not here to flame you though. I am merely responding to the comparison between Anthony Ler’s case and this. It is unfortunate that you have to be so emotional about this.
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Oh your previous post has disappeared. I rest my case.
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And I’m referring to the underaged prostitute in question. Are we referring to the same one?
And I’m wondering why was the 16yr old boy in the Anthony Ler’s case found guilty where else this 17yr old gal is seen to be well protected by the law. Please don’t try to throw any more red herrings cos I’m not saying that she should serve the same sentence as manslaughter/murder. Just something befitting her crime.
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The herrings are not from me. She did not commit a crime by Singapore law. As an underaged individual, she receives protection from the court. Of course it’s up to u whether or not u want to read up some more, though I think perhaps what some of u want is to for the law to be reconsidered in cases such as this.
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That’s precisely what I’m questioning. Why is she so well protected by the LAW where else that 16 yr old boy didn’t? It doesn’t sit right by me cos I totally don’t think she deserving of that kind of privilege.
I rest my case.
Btw I apologize for the brashness in my reply cos this case really irks me. -
FQW:
whether it is a crime depends whether the law has provision for it.
Prostitution is not a crime; but underaged prostitution is. And underaged prostitution is what we're talking about here. So am I right to say that this is a crime now?
For e.g. selling chewing gum is illegal, but buying is not.
If the law states that a <18yo provides sexual service is illegal, than it is illegal. if it is not defined by the law, then, it may not be illegal. But procuring sexual service from <18yo is defined by the law as illegal.
So, it is not necessary that both parties involved in a transaction must have the same liability.
Refer to the same example of sale & purchase of chewing gum to see why this can happen. -
limlim:
Likewise, a customer forcing himself on a hooker is called RAPE! Doesn't matter the job scope.
whether it is a crime depends whether the law has provision for it.FQW:
Prostitution is not a crime; but underaged prostitution is. And underaged prostitution is what we're talking about here. So am I right to say that this is a crime now?
For e.g. selling chewing gum is illegal, but buying is not.
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In my opinion, the obvious difference betw this case & anthony Ler’s case, is that, KILLING someone(for whatever reasons, be it you were manipulated or not),is very OBVIOUSLY wrong!! Even killing or torturing an animal is OBVIOUSLY wrong…no argument on this…
But our law have to ‘protect’ underaged girls from prostitution, because they MAY be FORCED by pimps/due to forced situations(e.g. some immoral parents may force them to prostitution to help pay gambling debts etc)…
& they may be too young, & do not know how to protect themselves, or do not dare to fight for themselves…emotionally, they may not be able to handle the situations…for e.g. they may be ‘told’ or ‘taught’ by pimps that since u already let 1 person do it once, might as well just do it many times…?
& for a young girl, they may be confused & thus fall into the traps & got made used of by pimps??!!
Of course, in this case, this girl may not be in this cartegory…there is an obvious grey area for this kind of underage prostitution…
unlike Anthony Ler’s case, even if the teenagers are underaged,
IT IS OBVIOUSLY WRONG TO KILL!!
EVEN a young child of say ,5 years old know that,killing or torturing an animal is wrong,right??
BUT should we change the law that protect young girls, just because of this girl??
If young girls are not protected by laws, can u imagine how the immoral pimps will target & prey on young girls, & lure them, or even con them & force them into this trade?? obvious reasons: being young, they should be easier to manipulate+control…& precisely why the laws are in existence to protect them…or worst, I can imagine, S’pore may become not safe, coz our daughters may be kidnapped by pimps??
JMHO…
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