Singapore for Singaporeans?
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verykiasu2010:
she is just being respectful to follow your DS in addressing youpinky:
[quote=\"daisyt\"]Yes, respect our way of life and not make us become their second country. I hate most when these China sales people or stall menders call me \"美女\". We Singaporeans address ladies as 小姐，小妹妹，auntie and not 美女. This is Singapore, not China.
and I dun understand why my son's Chinese tuition teacher keep calling me 'ma ma' whenever she answer my query. :yikes: :?
you are expected to follow your DS in addressing her as 'lao shi'[/quote]Lucky your dw is not having tuition with a china teacher .. Else the later with call u ' Lao gOng'!...
..... Sorry just joking ... 
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pinky:
I still remember the case when the PRC lady called the police after a local hairdresser called her xiao jie and claimed that it was an insult to her.
Yes, it's a pity the cultures are so different even though we have same skin color. Xiao Jie to them is an insult. But mei nu to us is not Singaporean. :rotflmao: oh yes, ah yi to them also refers to cleaner/maid. I didn't know that when I called my uncle in Beijing. The woman on the phone told me he was out and told me she is the ah yi :scratchhead: (i didnt know he had one ah yi)...later, he explained that ah yi is referring to 'maid'. -
All these dependencies on FT is tearing our social fabric…how do the minorities feel when PRC are brought in numbers …India Indians too…already now I rarely see our true blue Indian Sgporeans. And Pinoy…how are they similar to us in culture? Tagalog, mandarin, hindi…at least the govt wld be happy that Singlish is slowly on its way out.
Every weekend I bring my kids to the pool for swim lessons…everywhere I swim I bump into Pinoys, PRC & India Indians. Really feel outcast in my own ctry. Multi-racial is turning more multi-racial but these new multi-racial do not integrate (just like the Elites who are identified since young to follow a certain path in education).
And realized now more n more of my kids classmates parents (obvious FT) in Enrichment class came up to me and first thing they ask "Are you Singaporean?" …hmmm really wonder y? -
oneheart:
In going global, we have lost our identity as Singaporeans. It's sad.
And realized now more n more of my kids classmates parents (obvious FT) in Enrichment class came up to me and first thing they ask \"Are you Singaporean?\" ....hmmm really wonder y?
If a parent were to ask if I am Singaporean, I will speak singlish to her :rotflmao: -
To me, being Singaporean is innate. A place of shared culture and experiences. No one can take that away from me. Not the import of foreigners, not the globalisation of industries, they do not dilute my sense of being Singaporean.
If you feel less ‘Singaporean’ because you know have to bump elbows with PRC, Myanmese, Pinoy, who come to our land to share in the dream, then I put it to you that your definition of being Singaporean is far too narrow. Your sense of Singapore is far too shallow.
The common refrain by many is ‘I’m not a racist, I do not discriminate.’ But in the next breath, there are too many overseas kids competing with ours for P-school places, MRT is too crowded, COE is too high, COV is too high, and all due to…??
I wonder if anyone really went to crunch the numbers to understand the true cost-benefit.
We have turned into a nasty, selfish society, if there is something that will put me off being a Singaporean, that would be it. Singaporeans who basically care only for themselves (as individuals), and turn their nastiness towards foreigners initially (because they are the easy target), but when there are no more foreigners to blame, the nastiness will remain and they will basically turn on their fellow Singaporeans. -
ChiefKiasu:
Why the company themselves never make an effort to encourage Singaporeans to buy their products? They can't blame anyone but themselves.
The only companies worth mentioning are Creative and Trek, and both have their fortunes severely diminished over the last 10 years. I don't recall the government making any effort to encourage Singaporeans to buy Creative products, despite it being a true-blue Singaporean company. These are the trailblazers who have cut a path for us, only to see the path overgrown with weeds due to our lack of support in following that path. We lament our lack of entrepreneurs and talent, so we import.
Why is Make in Singapore product not sold cheaper in Singapore to encourage local consumption while maintaining the high standard of quality of the product sold overseas?
They are just profit oriented companies. And they do not make special privilege for Singaporeans when they sell their products locally. They do not appreciate local consumers, why should local consumer appreciate them?
Did the Govt never support them? I believe, they receive grants or tax concessions for innovations for investments locally. They could have passed the savings to Singaporeans but they didn't (I guess). Why should Govt encourage local consumption? The products should speak for themselves.
It is ridiculous to see so often, that Made-In-Singapore products are actually sold much much cheaper overseas than locally. That some locals have to actually import from US many Made-In-Singapore products! (for e.g. SSDs) as it is so much cheaper even factoring in shipping costs! (as much as 50% or more).
And, also, for flash drives, I heard (can't verify), these items are actually more costly in Singapore than overseas because they have to pay loyalty if sold in Singapore, but not when sold overseas. This is like a tight slap on local consumers by a local company!
These local companies are just trying to squeeze as much as possible from locals, even thou the market is actually not that big.
They treat local consumers like carrots.. chop chop chop chop as much as they can..
If you don't care for local consumers, don't expect local consumers to support you. -
3Boys:
OUCH!!! but true..... :siam:To me, being Singaporean is innate. A place of shared culture and experiences. No one can take that away from me. Not the import of foreigners, not the globalisation of industries, they do not dilute my sense of being Singaporean.
If you feel less 'Singaporean' because you know have to bump elbows with PRC, Myanmese, Pinoy, who come to our land to share in the dream, then I put it to you that your definition of being Singaporean is far too narrow. Your sense of Singapore is far too shallow.
The common refrain by many is 'I'm not a racist, I do not discriminate.' But in the next breath, there are too many overseas kids competing with ours for P-school places, MRT is too crowded, COE is too high, COV is too high, and all due to......??
I wonder if anyone really went to crunch the numbers to understand the true cost-benefit.
We have turned into a nasty, selfish society, if there is something that will put me off being a Singaporean, that would be it. Singaporeans who basically care only for themselves (as individuals), and turn their nastiness towards foreigners initially (because they are the easy target), but when there are no more foreigners to blame, the nastiness will remain and they will basically turn on their fellow Singaporeans.
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janet_lee88:
I live in China for many years and during one of my returns, my friend brought me to the seafood center, and so used to speaking Chinese, I ordered from the auntie (the waitress), \"Auntie, 给我一个健怡可乐“...she paused and said, \"si mi? liet coke huh?!\" :roll:pinky:
I still remember the case when the PRC lady called the police after a local hairdresser called her xiao jie and claimed that it was an insult to her.
Yes, it's a pity the cultures are so different even though we have same skin color. Xiao Jie to them is an insult. But mei nu to us is not Singaporean. :rotflmao: oh yes, ah yi to them also refers to cleaner/maid. I didn't know that when I called my uncle in Beijing. The woman on the phone told me he was out and told me she is the ah yi :scratchhead: (i didnt know he had one ah yi)...later, he explained that ah yi is referring to 'maid'. -
I feel that the government has done well in unifying a one Singapore… We are Singaporeans! Not Singapore Malay, Singapore Chinese, Singapore Indian etc. Unfortunately with the high influx of foreigners (I honestly can’t say that all of them are FTs coz really not all of them contribute to our nation building), we have started to brand ourselves as Singapore Chinese or Singapore Indians.
As an adage goes "When in Rome, do what the Romans do". This means to follow the culture that you are a visitor of. Not wanting to deliberately point fingers, but the PRCs have stuck out like a sore thumb in the Singapore society. To cite a personal experience that remains distinctly in my mind, when I was expecting my DS2 and was out with my DS1 alone… I was on a fairly packed train (no seats & some standing) there was a small group of young PRCs (probably students or working) and another small group of Blangadeshi/Indian construction workers near the door I entered. After a few seconds standing in the train, all the construction workers stood up, one even helped my DS1 up the seat. The PRCs just looked on and then quickly looked away or became busy.
Anyways just sharing my personal thoughts and I’m sorry if anyone is offended. -
oneheart:
Why?
Every weekend I bring my kids to the pool for swim lessons....everywhere I swim I bump into Pinoys, PRC & India Indians. Really feel outcast in my own ctry. y?
You have probably visited other countries for vacation. Did you feel like an outcast?
Yes vacations are fun but does not feel like home, but surely not like an outcast, or we would not be going there.
If you felt the pool was crowded I understand , but feel like an out caste ?? :?
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