Principal of top school under investigation for hiring prost
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Musings:
I read ur statement in previous post as referring to prosecutorial discretion
I don't think this is accurate. The law is the law. But the prosecution (AG chambers or public prosecutor) will decide whether to prosecute after police has completed investigations - the offender will know whether the AGC has decided to prosecute when they are formally charged. Many factors go into prosecutorial discretion such as whether there is sufficient evidence, whether there is a public interest in prosecuting etc.
The truth is the state does not have infinite resources to go after every single offender.
My view is the law cannot introduce a subjective element of whether the offender has knowledge of the age of the underage prostitute - otherwise you will never be able to nail the offender because every single offender will claim they were 'misled', they didn't know. This is similar to the strict offence of harbouring an illegal immigrant - it is not a defence to say you did not know the tenant in your house is an illegal immigrant. The onus is on you to check. If you choose not to do your homework properly, then live with the risk.
The law serves a a deterrent to people who may be tempted to go for very young prostitutes (they may just be underage and you will never be able to fully verify it) which on balance I believe is necessary to protect the underage girls.
Yes, there will be cases when some of these girls are very sophisticated and exploit the men but to begin with, nobody ask the men to go for the very young things right? Nobody is banning the men from visiting prostitutes but do your homework lah!
wrt underage prostitution specifically, hence my reply dat there were
no exceptions n d law has been strictly applied in such cases.
R u suggesting here dat there were exceptions? - u r aware of any cases
where such offence has been deemed to be committed but waived by AGC?
If u r actually referring to prosecutorial discretion in general, then I wld agree with ur point on dat. -
Sun_2010:
WeiHan,
It seems that you know many of these guys and they are so liberal to confess to you.WeiHan:
[quote=\"buds\"]
Many of the guys who do like patronizing prostitutes claims almost the same thing.. \"We've worked very hard and deserve to reward ourselves...\"
Sick.
Need to stoop to personal attack? So despo?[/quote]sorrie kaypoh a bit..
I don't find it to be a person attack.. quite curious too.. the men actually confess these things to another woman? -
Way2GO:
Doubt in the recent case any false documents was involved.. it is just a word of mouth or internet advertising, which is not a good defense by any measurement.
But... if underage prost lied about their age or present false documents, shdn't dat be a mitigating factor?
d men now bear d full brunt of d law - false advertising, lying notwithstanding.
I would believe that a fake IC (not easily verified by reasonable means) would constitute a valid defense, even with the current law. But apparently, this element is lacking.. for the cases that surfaced so far. -
Way2GO:
Are you aware of any cases where the men were charged and the defense is false IC?
I read ur statement in previous post as referring to prosecutorial discretion
wrt underage prostitution specifically, hence my reply dat there were
no exceptions n d law has been strictly applied in such cases.
R u suggesting here dat there were exceptions? - u r aware of any cases
where such offence has been deemed to be committed but waived by AGC?
I doubt there is any.. which, IMO, implies that for such a case, probably the prosecution may not even press charges as it could be a valid defense.. unless they doubt what the man said and he has to prove it and not just make up stories. Meaning.. the statement has to be in line with the prost's and other evidences present.. for e.g. -
limlim:
sorrie kaypoh a bit..
It seems that you know many of these guys and they are so liberal to confess to you.WeiHan:
[quote=\"buds\"]
Many of the guys who do like patronizing prostitutes claims almost the same thing.. \"We've worked very hard and deserve to reward ourselves...\"
Sick.
I don't find it to be a person attack.. quite curious too.. the men actually confess these things to another woman?[/quote]Maybe cannot qualify as a personal attack but it certains sound a little unfriendly, even to the extent of hostile.
And yes, some guy friends would openly confess having engaged the services of prost when we chit on this subject. They wont volunteer information but when asked, they would tell in bits and pieces. -
some of these men being charged may have been a habitual visitor to brothels, except this time they were caught? so it cant be a MOMENT of folly for them
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the ferrari case takes the heat off this case already :evil:
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pinky:
the ferrari case takes the heat off this case already :evil:
:thankyou: for bringing this topic up again. :rotflmao:
Should somebody apologise for all these? -
Oppsgal:
pinky:
the ferrari case takes the heat off this case already :evil:
:thankyou: for bringing this topic up again. :rotflmao:
Should somebody apologise for all these?[/quote]
for neglecting this thread or for patronising her :evil: :rotflmao: -
initially, i was wondering ... apologize for what ? :? now iho ho ho ho ho ho ho kekekekekekekeke
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
those die hard guys who frequent prostitues - how can they do it in a \"Moment of folly\" ?
waiting for next change of episode ... that court case scheduled hearing for the ang mo Swiss banker, around mid June. Think by the time Swiss banker's verdict out, the Principal already finished serving jail sentence, released from prison. New life awaits him ...
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