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    Should I complain to higher authority about the principal?

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    • V Offline
      verykiasu2010
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      need more info


      which school ?

      if it is NYPS, it has been two Q’s going into gate A for years … kids alight next to the kerb, on either side, and if on the far side, then walk to zebra crossing to walk to classroom block

      the 2 Q’s are meant to reduce congestion and improve traffic flow speed

      the problem is some parents on the right-hand Q insist on crossing over to the left-hand Q resulting in traffic jam and bottle neck as cars from left-hand Q refuse to let them cut in

      may be you expect to P to appease your anger by reprimanding the bus driver but that is your expectation of how things are to be handled by your standard. the P would have other considerations too and she gave you face by telling the bus driver to be careful

      if you openly challenge them they will not be ‘bullied’, but if you seek appointment to speak to the P personally she could be more receptive and hear you out. if you pick an open confrontation against the P, the traffic warden, and the bus driver all at the same time … they will also tell you to be more careful. traffic safety is a two way thing

      do you expect your DS to walk nonchalantly if he alights at the right spot and everyone has to look out for him ? say for eg, traffic light controlled crossing - do you expect him to walk with eyes closed since itis green light in his favour ?

      just my personal view that you over blow the issue. no offense meant

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        Nebbermind
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        If there are 2 queues as described, since the bus is on the left, the children should alight on the left, while the kid from the car should get off on the right side of the car. The kid should not be alighting onto the middle of the road. If sway sway the kid is sitting at the front passenger seat, then parent should come down and guide the kid to the right side of the driveway.


        That being said, there should be a designated crossing at the driveway for kids on the right to get to the left.

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          LOLMum
          last edited by

          My observation on my own school run.


          The lane for drop off in the school all the way to the main road is wide enough for 2 cars.

          Cars on left lane are generally slower. quite a few times, I was about to move off on the left lane but was unable to because children alighting from the cars on the right side block the road. And trust me, some of these children do not look where they are going.

          A few quarrels happened (as described by OP). Not me.

          After school, u will have kids who just dash across your moving car, just because the parent on the right lane has arrived and horn horn. And u got to do an sudden jam brake..and the shock u get regardless of how slow ur car is moving. :rant:

          To me, it is very dangerous to let a child especially a small child alight in the middle of the road.

          Many parents who do not wish to take the slower but safe lane, well, what else can I say. 🤷 if accident happen.

          Luckily the school has taken steps to turn the 2 lanes within the school into 1 lane. Yes it takes a longer time to reach the drop off point but is is a worthy wait in ecxchange for the safety of the child.

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            Eagle-Ladybird
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            Just by reading what was described, I agreed with the several replies that the 2nd queue should not have been there. This is especially so if the kids are to alight in the middle of the road, and have to cross the inner-left queue to the school. To me, it’s a definitely lack of road-sense, and dangerous. Unless the kids alight right in front of the warden, and be assisted by the warden to cross the road.

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              ammonite
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              There should be only one queue. The school will probably send out a circular to remind parents to stick to one queue. But of course some parents will be impatient since unloading the bus always take a long time so it may look as if there are 2 queues at that time of the morning, but it should not be the case.


              In any case, if you pull ahead of the bus, you should drive right to the edge, and not drop the kid off in the middle of the road. The bus driver cannot see little kids at certain angles, it is just a matter of height and blind spots. I would not think it is totally the bus driver’s fault.

              Schools will also usually have rules for dismissal time. Either the school buses go first, or the children not taking school transport go first. It should not be a mad rush out.

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                winchester
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                ammonite:
                There should be only one queue. The school will probably send out a circular to remind parents to stick to one queue. But of course some parents will be impatient since unloading the bus always take a long time so it may look as if there are 2 queues at that time of the morning, but it should not be the case.


                In any case, if you pull ahead of the bus, you should drive right to the edge, and not drop the kid off in the middle of the road. The bus driver cannot see little kids at certain angles, it is just a matter of height and blind spots. I would not think it is totally the bus driver's fault.

                Schools will also usually have rules for dismissal time. Either the school buses go first, or the children not taking school transport go first. It should not be a mad rush out.
                good balanced response!

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                  onemore
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                  complain about principal? - usually doesn't fly


                  worst if it is an independent or autonomous or IP school

                  What you portrayed is rather mild; considering you may have not met a notorious principal that is abrasive with a huge ego, he would even go to the point to gall parents and students by taunting, encouraging and challenging them to complain to MOE. :mad:

                  Good experience says to work with the school to resolve issues - is best way out; else no other way but approach the press.

                  :sad:

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                    verykiasu2010
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                    onemore:
                    complain about principal? - usually doesn't fly


                    worst if it is an independent or autonomous or IP school

                    What you portrayed is rather mild; considering you may have not met a notorious principal that is abrasive with a huge ego, he would even go to the point to gall parents and students by taunting, encouraging and challenging them to complain to MOE. :mad:

                    Good experience says to work with the school to resolve issues - is best way out; else no other way but approach the press.

                    :sad:
                    like the RGPS case ....... \"I got money. I will pay the fines, just to see her fumes......\" something like that, can't quote verbatim .......

                    http://www.tnp.sg/content/parents-ugly-spat-over-raffles-girls-primary-traffic-woes

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                      verykiasu2010
                      last edited by

                      this post is not directed at any one


                      just borrowing this thread to say something

                      lots of time many parents / drivers are very self-centred, everything is I, me, myself, without realising, and refusing to recognise, the problems and inconvenience they cause to others; but is quick to complain and raise the hell when they are inconvenienced.

                      :siam: :siam:

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                        Jennifer
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                        verykiasu2010:
                        this post is not directed at any one


                        just borrowing this thread to say something

                        lots of time many parents / drivers are very self-centred, everything is I, me, myself, without realising, and refusing to recognise, the problems and inconvenience they cause to others; but is quick to complain and raise the hell when they are inconvenienced.

                        :siam: :siam:
                        I agree. The behaviour sounds like my P5 boy.

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