By Election for Hougang
-
limlim:
![](\"http://i47.tinypic.com/2hmnclz.png\")
http://i47.tinypic.com/2hmnclz.png\">
NICE!
*LIKE* -
What is MSM?
-
cantbearit2:
:goodpost: No synergy between the MPs is correct. Little co-ordination between ministries. Competition and turf guarding is the name of the game. The silly KPI and performance system is ubiquitious in Singapore and defines every single Ministry, MP and civil servant... and cheapens good men in parliament and government.
IM v unhappy over many issues from housing to transportation to our education system. Somehow, i felt there were no synergy bet our MPs. Each policy rolled out did not gif due consideration to e cause & effects.
However i do agree tat we shld learn to respect one another. Despite not agreeing wif e many policies fr our MIW, I will still gif em a nod as acknowledgement to show my respect to em as leaders of my country if i happen to mit em (so far never lor).
For now, i hope tat Png can help to bring out some issues at national level & all MPs can work together to bring back e Singapore which I WAS once so proud of.
We are not a Village. We are gladiators. And the word gladiator is nothing to be proud of. -
Chenonceau:
What is MSM?
Took me a while to figure out, but I'd assume it is mainstream media. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -
concern2:
you're correct....Chenonceau:
What is MSM?
Took me a while to figure out, but I'd assume it is mainstream media. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
hmm.. quite surprised the question came from chen.. kena p.h.d. from doing too many primary school homework ar..? :evil: -
limlim:
you're correct....concern2:
[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]What is MSM?
Took me a while to figure out, but I'd assume it is mainstream media. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
hmm.. quite surprised the question came from chen.. kena p.h.d. from doing too many primary school homework ar..? :evil:[/quote] :spank:
:heresmyfish:
:razz:
:rant:
:censored:
:nunchuk:
:lightrod: -
I think Singaporean was generally not this kind of people, so that goes to show how much of 民怨 are out there.
Angelight:
Read from TODAY paper that DC was jeered at by the residents there when he went round to make his 'thank-you' parade in Hougang. I felt this is really uncalled for. Although he lost the by election, he was gracious enough to congratulate PEH and even said PEH \"deserved to win becos he had worked very hard in that estate\". I think DC has also worked very hard in Hougang, despite losing the GE last year, he still stayed on to serve the Hougang residents. For this alone, I don't think he deserved to be jeered at.
This is not the first time WP supporters had jeered at MPs of ruling party. At the last GE when GY, WKS and other PAP MPs gave a speech on Nomination Day, WP supporters also booed at them. What is with these pple, that they have absolutely no respect for others who are not in the same camp as them. It also reflects very badly on the WP supporters and the party they supported.
Actually I've tried to refrain from posting here cos I know there are many WP supporters here and didn't want to be slammed. But I felt so sorry for DC after reading about him being sneered and jeered at during the thank-you parade that I just felt I have to say something.
Btw, I am not a Hougang resident and this by election didn't affect me at all. But I just want to bring this up and hope that people will respect others who are not in the same camp, league or whatever. Respecting others is also respecting ourselves. -
Mr. LTK responded to zaobao's 'arrows':
(source: http://www.zaobao.com.sg/yl/yl120529_002.shtml)
吴新迪总编辑在刊登于早报5月28日言论版的文章中说：“这起事件，我们没有在后面暗中操盘，想要破坏工人党。” 我必须在此严正澄清：我所说的是“成为暗箭的有力射手”，并没有指控任何主流媒体就是那个“放暗箭的行动党打手”。
我在记者会上的完整说词是：“明枪易挡、暗箭难防。意想不到的是，主流媒体竟然成为暗箭的有力射手，一些媒体甚至没有根据，也没确认事实，就大事报道和藏镜人通过电邮所说的话。”
我所要表达的是，媒体的大事报道，成为了放暗箭者的有力工具，助长了放暗箭者所要达到的目的。这也同时鼓励更多有心之人在未来关键的时刻效法。不论所说是真是假，不敢站出来面对自己的所做所为，为自己所说的话负责任，不但是小人行为，更是胆怯的伪君子。新加坡朝向第一世界国会民主进程迈进的过程中，主流媒体应该协助清理政坛，不应该允许这类人搅局作乱。反之则等于助纣为虐。这是我的担忧。
更有甚者，如果媒体不查证所获得的消息来源是否正确，甚至在不确定提供消息者的真正身份就大事报道匿名者不利某人或政党的言谈，不但误导读者，更会使媒体失去公信力。
所以，我接着说：“一些媒体甚至没有根据，也没确认事实，就大事报道和藏镜人通过电邮所说的话。”我所指的是《我报》5月24日的头版“揭秘者接受本报电邮访问”的内容。大标题是“揭秘不是要害工人党、我也不会退出工人党”。《我报》难道已经知道“神秘松鼠”的身份？已经证实“神秘松鼠”是工人党的党员？
吴总编辑说：“（我）选择在补选成绩揭晓后的记者会上，突然向媒体发难，把所有主流媒体说成是暗箭的射手，是人民行动党在竞选期间的政治打手。”
补选成绩揭晓后的记者会是在5月26日晚上。但是，我早在5月24日，最后一场的后港补选群众大会上，在以英语演讲时就已经说：“……但是，当主要的资讯来源都被垄断，人民又如何能在真正了解事实之后作出选择呢？到今天为止，新加坡报业控股的主席还是由前内阁部长担任，新传媒电视的主要股东是政联公司，淡马锡控股。我们能够期待他们到底有多中立呢？
我也说：“传媒有潜能成为对付或支持某个政党强而有力的工具。因此，媒体必须独立，不能受到政府的强力影响，其所提供给人民的信息也必须是可靠的。只有这样，媒体才能够有效审视所有的政党，包括人民行动党，不单单只是反对党。我们不能够让媒体被政府利用，成为政治工具。”
所以，记者会是我对这次补选媒体整体表现质疑的总结，以及进一步更具体的表达我的看法和担忧。不是选择在补选后突然向媒体发难。
同样在5月24日的最后一场群众大会上，我也说：“……许多记者和摄影记者都有使命感，也负责任。尽管它们在写报道时尽力做到公平，但最终所刊登出来的，是超越了他们的权限。”
从我30年从政所累积的经验中，我知道媒体所刊载的信息对公众有很强的渗透力；尤其在政治上，塑造形象的重要性。我也见证了媒体在新加坡政治发展上所扮演的重要角色。我所要表达的，就如我在记者会上担心的，媒体成为新加坡民主进程的绊脚石，会使我们的政治文明倒退20年。
工人党秘书长刘程强
:salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: -
concern2:
1st point. Agree. People should not boo. Ideally la.Personally, I do not think people should boo at the party that they do not support. Due respect should be given to those who campaigned and put themselves up to serve the people.
However,
, I'd think this is nothing compared to the smears from MSM. The vocab by the people on the streets is more limited to compared to the educated people in MSM. MIW should reflect. Asking people they should or should not do this and that is one thing. If MIW is not getting the message from the one word of \"boo\", then the worse may be yet to come.
But to them, maybe the ruling party has put in things that make life really very difficult for them...such as
1) invasion of foreigners who compete for jobs with unfair advantages
2) MND never tok to immigration side, so did not prepare for infrastructure to support the foreign wave, hence leading to runaway prices for some commodities and necessities
3) increase of GST to 'help the poor'
4) never listen to the people's cry - no casinos
5) selling our national assets - e.g. power station to foreign comapanies
6) call us words like stupid, daft, repent, spurs stuck to their hides and saying stupid things like \"I feel so rich when I see my CPF acct\"
7) little / no union support and protection
and let's not talk about how they bash the opposition
and of course, bringing in 'questionable people' like:
1) a young lady with no real talent but by the fact that she is married to the PM personal assistant
2) a doctor from Malaysia that didn't do NS
3) a female banker (??)
4) an ex general with a penchant for hokkien slang
So. when you see what kind of thing this party represents, will you boo or not?
I personally think they got off lightly. In USA, did you know George Bush had eggs thrown at him? -
concern2:
may i know what is MIW?Personally, I do not think people should boo at the party that they do not support. Due respect should be given to those who campaigned and put themselves up to serve the people.
However, , I'd think this is nothing compared to the smears from MSM. The vocab by the people on the streets is more limited to compared to the educated people in MSM. MIW should reflect. Asking people they should or should not do this and that is one thing. If MIW is not getting the message from the one word of \"boo\", then the worse may be yet to come.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login