School Examinations Too Difficult
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beanbear:
Totally agree with you. This social engineering process is unconscionable. The means does not justify the ends.
Transparency of exam papers are temporary strategies I feel. We are not getting to the root of the issue. I think there is fundamentally something wrong when we try to socially engineer young children's performance via streaming at very young ages. Streaming is happening at every level of primary school; the worst being PSLE - a damaging streaming tool whose victims are young 12 year olds.coast:
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35434
Why the need to stream or differentiate the bright from the not so bright? Why is there a need to put the brightest of the brightest within the same school compound? There is a social engineering process that's going on at the highest levels and I feel so sick by this whole thing because there are many many bright children whose psychological, emotional, physical, spiritual well-being has been sacrificed for the sake of the top 5% of society.
A revolution is needed. -
apparently, it seems that with each new change(s) introduced to MOE Maths syllabus,the PSLE questions for Maths gets ... tougher & tougher.
janet_lee88:
Maths is using 'English' in a mathematical way. the other crazy thing is counting number of legs of 3 chickens and 5 dogs. One more thing, that question about 'how much did they have at first'....totally stumped me
agree!
i was wondering why on earth they set these type of questions about # of legs of chicken / dogs ... out to confuse pupils ! :yikes:
Yes, even in reading the Maths question(s), you need to look out for tricky keywords too! -
phtthp:
Present math syllabus is tough enough...cannot comprehend why it is made tougher with heuristic. Plain :siao: yours truly here is already stupid where Math is concerned. Alamak, now it is worst !!! In the math assessment for P2, there is this 'guess and check' etc etc.apparently, it seems that with each new change(s) introduced to MOE Maths syllabus,the PSLE questions for Maths gets ... tougher & tougher.
janet_lee88:
Maths is using 'English' in a mathematical way. the other crazy thing is counting number of legs of 3 chickens and 5 dogs. One more thing, that question about 'how much did they have at first'....totally stumped me
agree!
i was wondering why on earth they set these type of questions about # of legs of chicken / dogs ... out to confuse pupils ! :yikes: -
janet_lee88:
Mummy Janet,
Present math syllabus is tough enough...cannot comprehend why it is made tougher with heuristic. Plain :siao: yours truly here is already stupid where Math is concerned. Alamak, now it is worst !!! In the math assessment for P2, there is this 'guess and check' etc etc.
:hi5: Me too ---- I am super lousy when comes to Maths and will literally :siao: and
:nailbite: and feel :snooze: :snooze: whenever My P4 Dd1 comes to me with a \"challenging / higher ability\" Maths problem sum.
Now that my DD2 has entered into the Pri School Education, I am also aware that Maths in P1 is not only 1+19 =20 but she has to know number bond that make up 20; what is 1 more than 19? ; 20 is 1 more than__? 1 less than 20 is___? what is the number more than 18 but less than 20? etc etc... This might sound very fundamental for a P1 child but if one is not strong with language, Maths can actually be a struggle for a 6 going 7 years old child
JMHO
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Hi champion,
It's tough enough dealing with a year-end child...fact is that some kids are just 6 when they are in P1 and 7 in P2. How can they be expected to be on par with those who were born at least 6 months earlier?
Last night, my son asked me something about math...told him to approach daddy. I cannot help...although it sounds somewhat familiar :rotflmao:
2 nights ago, father and daughter were having squabble when junior was told to learn 2/3 times table. I :siam: to kitchen. -
the crazy Maths qns set making us parents all stressed up …
i eat chicken feet (brewedmany hours in soup), but i never bother to count howmany chicken leg / feet i’d eaten. -
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janet_lee88:
Hi Janet, stay positiveHi champion,
It's tough enough dealing with a year-end child...fact is that some kids are just 6 when they are in P1 and 7 in P2. How can they be expected to be on par with those who were born at least 6 months earlier?
Year-end kids can shine too. Be patient cos sometimes they just need a little more time to catch up. We tend to be too stressed & pushed them when they are not ready yet. DD is a last-day year-end child (actually I had to cesarean her 2.5 weeks early so she end up starting her life one year early).
Her early years looked 'dim & slow' - compared to peers & one-yr older brother. Now she has definitely caught up. She can still be quite childish but I find her cute (cos chubby mah
) & I let her be cos she probably has ~1yr less playtime?!?! With your dedication, your DD will catch up. :love:
Actually on hindsight, it could be a blessing in disguise when she started in a rather lousy neighborhood primary school. Sch was rather relax & easy from P1-P3. She had lotsa time to play (hardly any Sch work every day) & no tuition except Berries & Piano. She was a late starter in reading - at 7 (this is my only regret. I believe it's important to read from young). In her new Sch, life is different now......do pity her. The workload is equivalent to her P6 brother. But by now, I believe they are ready for more hardship. Most important, do their best :). -
Just need to know plus, minus, times and divide. The rest get use the computer, calculator to do. Oh ya, also algebra formula and simultaneous equations is good to know, help solve practical problems. Also must know how to count money and do foreign exchange conversion.
Other than that, what other Maths you need in life…??? -
DesertWind:
My ex line of work need to use perimeter n area n volume chapter of math.Just need to know plus, minus, times and divide. The rest get use the computer, calculator to do. Oh ya, also algebra formula and simultaneous equations is good to know, help solve practical problems. Also must know how to count money and do foreign exchange conversion.
Other than that, what other Maths you need in life....???
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Hi BeContended,
I love to read newspapers and magazines...but don't know why these 2 fellas do not. My son in P6 literally skims through when I get him to read a book. Now, he has difficulty with comprehension passages :slapshead:
As for my daughter, I get her to sit beside me when I read newspapers. This way, I tell her what I am reading.
To me, Math is to know how to count money & compare prices ( :oops: typical housewife). Addition, subtraction and converting currency is the job of calculator.
Her school system is rather patient, although teacher has taught stuff like Models, heuristic and the English standard is more demanding. She needs constant refreshment before we can move on...her teacher said we just have to work hand in hand to get her through. Cant rush. This year, the focus is totally on her. Hope she improves in memory and learning to pass all her subjects at the end of this year.
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