Suspect my maid has hp, advice needed
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schweppes:
you should be around more often to provide Schweppes Tonic Water to cool down the temperature lah ...... if you are around more often, it could be different
Always thought that ksp is a good platform to cordially share and learn from each other. What happened to that? :scratchhead: :skeptical: -
Wow. There has been a lot of discussion here since my last post.
People who are not suffering in the hands of the MAIDS can preach about maid liberty, treating them equally blah blah… And i mean it… To see their sulken black face all the time, the number of stuffs that are broken spoiled around the house without even a sorry (and most of the time u come to know abt it accidentally they will never tell you) is more than suffering if you ask me
The contracts are always meant to be broken (By them, because if we break it they will cry blood and bring the roof down). do they ever do what they have agreed and signed in the contract. And when they break it, what can we poor employers do?? We can send them packing thats it… But that also comes with a huge price… Because each new maid costs us money and a lot more effort to train them…
And who said maids are responsible?? They are not like us and that is why they are maids… Maybe there are a few who are but u ask around, 9/10 people will say their maid is not responsible… If u live in a condo, just go down to the playground and you will know what i am talking about… My blood boils when i see the maids have their own kitty party in playground, with ear phones and happily yakking away and their ward is left on their own… Whom all shld i shout at? And in most cases the employers dont mind… They wont mind till all is well. The day the kids get hurt , then??
And my maid is like when they all can do it, why cant I?
During my gals last birthday, one gal came to the party with a maid. After it was over they went back also. After a while another friend of mine calls to tell me there is a gal sitting in the bus stop all alone, and I think i saw her in your party. I quickly go get the gal, called her mother and told her the story. The maid came after a while followed by the mother in tears… You know wht happened? the maid went to the mini mart to buy some stuff leaving this 4 yr old some where outside… What would you do? Sack her right? This mother lied to me that she had sacked the maid and later she told my common friend everybody does a mistake why make a big deal. She still has the maid but now ma’m refuses to even talk or smile… What was my mistake? Told you about ur maids true colors? What if something had happened that day? This gal was found on the main road bus stop… I shudder at the taught even as i am typing it out…
Atleast in Singapore, Maids r the boss. They r never at the receiving end as some one said, we are… Because every rule is favorable to them. The last thing u can do is treat them as slave… They know their rights very very well… And handphone is just icing in the cake… -
Don’t think people are shying away when there are over 3700 views on this thread. They probably enjoy the exchanges and are seeing what the outcome is going to be
They have the opportunity to see how certain employers insist on pushing their beliefs onto others.
They can also relate and see how some rich and super rich employers send snide remarks to other employers who are not so rich
There are so many interesting tips to pick up and 3700 views certainly speaks a lot.
I agree that we can have different views and I have stated it many times but one should not make sweeping statements that cannot be substantiated.
Like many others who post here, they only relate what happened to themselves and they do not insist that other employers can do this or cannot do this.
The exchanges are simply exchanges and at the end of the day you can have you opinions but they must be based on facts.
The posters that I have engaged has placed other posts too. If those posts are factual and do not pass snide remarks on other posters, I will not engage them. -
sankan:
Agree with you absolutely.Wow. There has been a lot of discussion here since my last post.
People who are not suffering in the hands of the MAIDS can preach about maid liberty, treating them equally blah blah... And i mean it.. To see their sulken black face all the time, the number of stuffs that are broken spoiled around the house without even a sorry (and most of the time u come to know abt it accidentally they will never tell you) is more than suffering if you ask me
The contracts are always meant to be broken (By them, because if we break it they will cry blood and bring the roof down). do they ever do what they have agreed and signed in the contract. And when they break it, what can we poor employers do?? We can send them packing thats it.. But that also comes with a huge price.. Because each new maid costs us money and a lot more effort to train them..
And who said maids are responsible?? They are not like us and that is why they are maids... Maybe there are a few who are but u ask around, 9/10 people will say their maid is not responsible.. If u live in a condo, just go down to the playground and you will know what i am talking about.. My blood boils when i see the maids have their own kitty party in playground, with ear phones and happily yakking away and their ward is left on their own.. Whom all shld i shout at? And in most cases the employers dont mind.. They wont mind till all is well. The day the kids get hurt , then??
And my maid is like when they all can do it, why cant I?
During my gals last birthday, one gal came to the party with a maid. After it was over they went back also. After a while another friend of mine calls to tell me there is a gal sitting in the bus stop all alone, and I think i saw her in your party. I quickly go get the gal, called her mother and told her the story. The maid came after a while followed by the mother in tears.. You know wht happened? the maid went to the mini mart to buy some stuff leaving this 4 yr old some where outside.. What would you do? Sack her right? This mother lied to me that she had sacked the maid and later she told my common friend everybody does a mistake why make a big deal. She still has the maid but now ma'm refuses to even talk or smile.. What was my mistake? Told you about ur maids true colors? What if something had happened that day? This gal was found on the main road bus stop... I shudder at the taught even as i am typing it out..
Atleast in Singapore, Maids r the boss. They r never at the receiving end as some one said, we are.. Because every rule is favorable to them. The last thing u can do is treat them as slave.. They know their rights very very well.. And handphone is just icing in the cake...
This handphone issue is creating a lot of problems for employers and we want to share and see how we can solve them and I can understand if it makes your blood boil when someone comes and tell you that you have no right to stop your maid from having a handphone. -
verykiasu2010:
Ask and you shall receive...
you should be around more often to provide Schweppes Tonic Water to cool down the temperature lah ...... if you are around more often, it could be differentschweppes:
Always thought that ksp is a good platform to cordially share and learn from each other. What happened to that? :scratchhead: :skeptical:
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schweppes:
oh, thanks !
Ask and you shall receive...
:celebrate:
once on a flight to europe and over-flying the indian subcontinent and was feeling thirsty and asked for a drink - was given \"Indian Tonic Water\" ... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: -
nms1:
I am completely with you on this. No, it is not rose-tinted glasses, and no, I have no time employers who do not provide basic rights like the right for a person to have personal social interactions (like via a cell phone).
I think that you & I are miles apart in the way that we approach this issue but I don't take it personally; we all have our views and I think it's good that people can see the different ways that we all handle these things.
When you talk about the conditions of the contract I think that the big difference here between the maids and us is the balance of power. If we are talking about new maids they are unlikely to be told the rules of a particular employer before they come over so if they get here and find that the employer doesn't want them to have a hp (or whatever) they can't just walk away in the same way that we can if we are looking for a new job. This is a failing of the system and the employers & maids have to find the best way to deal with it.
In an ideal world (from my perspective) they would come to Singapore for a limited period in order to find a job, we could interview them in person and agree on detailed terms before they sign a contract. That is not going to happen so we have to live with what we have.
I agree that they shouldn't be walking along the road talking on the hp while pushing a stroller but does that mean that we ban all maids from having a hp? My boss wouldn't want me to be on the phone all day but she's not going to tell me to leave it at home. I know that not all of them can be responsible but I don't think we should \"punish\" them all as a result. They sacrifice a lot to come here and a lot (I won't say majority as someone will tell me that's not true) of them just want to work hard and earn money but they don't want to be cut off from the world in the process. Just imagine if you couldn't talk to anyone but your boss for 6 days a week?
Granted I may be looking at this through rose-tinted glasses as I have been very lucky with my maids. Yes, I had to send one home because she was pregnant but she made a mistake and that's life. She was a great maid and if it wasn't for the fact that her boyfriend was a local and is still here, I would take her back in the blink of an eye.
A very fundamental question is being asked here, is this the way you would like yourself to be treated at the workplace, is this the way you would accept your daughter being treated if you were in the unfortunate circumstance of having to export your women to be maids in other countries?
If the answer is no, then why treat a fellow human being that way? -
Hard Truth:
Hard, honest feedback tends to do that, does not mean its unwarranted.
This handphone issue is creating a lot of problems for employers and we want to share and see how we can solve them and I can understand if it makes your blood boil when someone comes and tell you that you have no right to stop your maid from having a handphone. -
after reading almost all the posts, i want say....
Maids are just like anyone of us, all of them are human beings. If possible I think most of us, employers wouldnt mind allowing them to use HP for communication. They need friends just like us, they need their family members just like us. They need to pour all their sorrows when mood swings in and the list go on.....
BUT! They seems to have forgotten why they have to end up in another country to look for a job? [well that doesnt mean we have to take away their rights?] They seems to have forgotten what they had promised/agreed when they first started work. I bet, if my boss were to see me always on the HP with friends and family or surfing the net the entire day (working hours), you will see their unhappy face. If written or veral warning is given but we still keep yaking or smsing away and as a result work not done and deadline not meet, you will see a letter of termination on the table.
I think nobody want to be unreasonable. We must remember that our boss trusted and hired us to do our job well, they pay us 100% of our contract price (salary) but did we give our 100% services?
:moneyflies:
Doesnt that sound reasonable? I put the same question across to some of the maid, so.. if they work 50% of what is agree upon, can i give them half of their salary? lolz.. most of them keep quiet.. :moneyflies:
I think everything we do must strike a balance. We must have self disciplines = self controls.
if you do not have self controls and ie, break the law, you go to jail. :lightrod: If a maid have HP addiction, we must correct it ourselves as this is not an offence :gloomy: (cos they are no different from drug addict).
:idea: But then prevention is better than cure, thus many of us rather not to let them have HP.
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nettie:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost: :salute: :salute: :salute:after reading almost all the posts, i want say....
Maids are just like anyone of us, all of them are human beings. If possible I think most of us, employers wouldnt mind allowing them to use HP for communication. They need friends just like us, they need their family members just like us. They need to pour all their sorrows when mood swings in and the list go on.....
BUT! They seems to have forgotten why they have to end up in another country to look for a job? [well that doesnt mean we have to take away their rights?] They seems to have forgotten what they had promised/agreed when they first started work. I bet, if my boss were to see me always on the HP with friends and family or surfing the net the entire day (working hours), you will see their unhappy face. If written or veral warning is given but we still keep yaking or smsing away and as a result work not done and deadline not meet, you will see a letter of termination on the table.
I think nobody want to be unreasonable. We must remember that our boss trusted and hired us to do our job well, they pay us 100% of our contract price (salary) but did we give our 100% services? :moneyflies:
Doesnt that sound reasonable? I put the same question across to some of the maid, so.. if they work 50% of what is agree upon, can i give them half of their salary? lolz.. most of them keep quiet.. :moneyflies:
I think everything we do must strike a balance. We must have self disciplines = self controls.
if you do not have self controls and ie, break the law, you go to jail. :lightrod: If a maid have HP addiction, we must correct it ourselves as this is not an offence :gloomy: (cos they are no different from drug addict).
:idea: But then prevention is better than cure, thus many of us rather not to let them have HP.
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