Former SCDF and CNB chiefs arrested

[Way2GO]

atutor2001:

Way2GO:

MHA wldn’t be too smart to lose proven gud officers, esp with new PS n Minister at d helm, wld they?....

Such logic is true only in commercial world. Nobody would not want to lose a top sales/marketing guy. However, it may not be true in civil service. Nothing to do with Minister or PS, they are too far away. May even chose not to know. It also depends on the definition of good. What is good in logical sense may not be good in political sense.

Ever heard of promoting someone sotong so that he will not be a threat to you. Or removing someone smart so that he will not outshine you. In my younger days I don't believe such art of war was actually being prasticed until my own boss warned me before his retirement. He actually advised me to act sotong if necessary and not to cross the line. If need to kill must remember to remove the roots and no one should know. It is sickening.

No logical thinking there. Just common sense.
There's more than enuf deadwood in d civil service
Wat I mean is dat d PS n Minister being new to d Ministry wld try to retain proven gud officers.

A leader who surrounds himself with only sycophants soon becomes full of himself n loses touch with d ground.

Wat Art of War is dat with sotongs? Cannot be Sun Tze's 36, right?

If ur boss is a gud boss who has ur interests at heart, why he only revealed dis 'earth-shaking truth' to u upon his impending retirement?
He also practices wat he preached? Just curious.

[Way2GO]

atutor2001:

Most of us look at issues from the surface and use logical thinking to reason out. In politics, sometimes things that defy logic are done because it achieves hidden agenda which is much more important than the collateral damages inflicted.


To be the top, a basic criteria is the ability \"to act blur\" and deny knowing it with a straight face. Remembered the case where our number 1 man openly declared that he was not aware that certain top man from a particular country was visiting us...

Top leadership n acting blur as a basic criteria don’t seem to go down well together.
Not publicly disclosing sensitive info comes with d territory for being privy to sensitive info n state secrets – nothing to do with being a criteria for leadership.

Wld agree dat top leadership sometimes require one to be ruthless, taking collateral damage is part of d price.

[atutor2001]

Way2GO:

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If ur boss is a gud boss who has ur interests at heart, why he only revealed dis 'earth-shaking truth' to u upon his impending retirement?
He also practices wat he preached? Just curious.

He was recommending me to take over his place probably because I was a perfect sotong, doing what I was told. So he was just being nice to tell me the truth because being a sotong, I also do what I felt was right and crossed the line.

By the way, I never said that he was a good boss. Just that he was kind enough to teach a blur young worker on office politics on his retirement. I am sure he also practised what he preached to survive. For all we know, maybe he was instructed by his boss to caution me - not to create unnecessary problem after taking over.

[tutormum]

atutor2001:

Way2GO:

MHA wldn’t be too smart to lose proven gud officers, esp with new PS n Minister at d helm, wld they?....

Such logic is true only in commercial world. Nobody would not want to lose a top sales/marketing guy. However, it may not be true in civil service. Nothing to do with Minister or PS, they are too far away. May even chose not to know. It also depends on the definition of good. What is good in logical sense may not be good in political sense.

Ever heard of promoting someone sotong so that he will not be a threat to you. Or removing someone smart so that he will not outshine you. In my younger days I don't believe such art of war was actually being prasticed until my own boss warned me before his retirement. He actually advised me to act sotong if necessary and not to cross the line. If need to kill must remember to remove the roots and no one should know. It is sickening.

Totally agreed. Saw it with my own eyes. Jealousy also plays a part. If they are jealous of you, your colleagues will even sabo you and make life difficult for you. I have colleagues who ganged up on me, telling lies and making them come true e.g. telling boss that I was not cooperative and could not work in a team while withholding info from me so that I didn't know what was happening. When I told my boss that I was not informed, their reply was \"for me to know for you to find out\" :faint: However, I always believe that my duty is to be a good christian and leave everything to God. \"Revenge is mine and I will repay, said the Lord\" One of them was so guilty stricken that when I left she cried and asked for forgiveness cos \"she didn't know that what she did was hurtful\". :mad: My reply was \"I can forgive you but can you forgive yourself?\" :razz:

[tutormum]

pinky:

atutor2001:

[quote=\"Way2GO\"]
MHA wldn’t be too smart to lose proven gud officers, esp with new PS n Minister at d helm, wld they?....

Such logic is true only in commercial world. Nobody would not want to lose a top sales/marketing guy. However, it may not be true in civil service. Nothing to do with Minister or PS, they are too far away. May even chose not to know. It also depends on the definition of good. What is good in logical sense may not be good in political sense.

Ever heard of promoting someone sotong so that he will not be a threat to you. Or removing someone smart so that he will not outshine you. In my younger days I don't believe such art of war was actually being prasticed until my own boss warned me before his retirement. He actually advised me to act sotong if necessary and not to cross the line. If need to kill must remember to remove the roots and no one should know. It is sickening.

ah now I understand why those at the top are so clueless.. :evil:[/quote]It's just that everybody is trying to protect their own backside. :rant: The rule of the game is to do what you are told and don't get into trouble to protect your own rice bowl. :sad: Hero dies first. :siam:

[Way2GO]

tutormum:

It's just that everybody is trying to protect their own backside. :rant: The rule of the game is to do what you are told and don't get into trouble to protect your own rice bowl. :sad: Hero dies first. :siam:

If all d high level civil servants n Ministers also think n behave liddat,
then jialat liao, SG is doomed.
Shouldn't d guiding principle be to do wat is gud n right?
When all d heros who wld stand up to be counted r slaughtered,
then those left behind without a guiding light n voice deserves to rot.

\"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.\"
- Martin Niemoller

[limlim]

Way2GO:

tutormum:

It's just that everybody is trying to protect their own backside. :rant: The rule of the game is to do what you are told and don't get into trouble to protect your own rice bowl. :sad: Hero dies first. :siam:

If all d high level civil servants n Ministers also think n behave liddat,
then jialat liao, SG is doomed.
Shouldn't d guiding principle be to do wat is gud n right?

it was a good thing that someone bought us the MRT in the past.. althou it was unfortunate how it was managed at present..

it was a good thing that, someone, who believed the workers were being exploited, sanctioned a strike.. The union did what a union is supposed to do.. to protect the welfare of the workers. Nowadays.. some union provides all kind of member \"benefits\", like cheap chalets, discount coupons.... but often do away with Collective Agreements and the things that truly protects a worker's welfare....

[friendship]

Most probably ah Gay’s own wife exposed the affair after she gathered enough evidence.

After rebuking the affair, instead of being remorseful, Gay challenged the wife.

Being childless, no need to think about TLL, TAS and all sort of enrichment programmes, his wife prepared to let go everything to bring down this man’s reputation.

The saddest person is Gay’s mum. Raising the son eventually fell off in the hands of women. Luckily, last time, education no need to invest so much. This guy could be top PSLE student and 9 straight A1s in O level. At that time there was no GEP or IP schools.

[janet88]

friendship:

Being childless, no need to think about TLL, TAS and all sort of enrichment programmes, his wife prepared to let go everything to bring down this man's reputation.

If the Gay husband is an idiot at home, treats wife badly...and she is capable, why not blow the whistle on him? Nothing to lose.
Sad for the mum...what to do? Son is the one who never think of consequences. So be prepared to lose everything bcos of a woman.
If the wife really blew the whistle, she must be very pissed off.

[Melodies]

How can it be Gay's wife exposed the affair? This ex-CNB chief's wife appeared in court with him and show the whole world that she is standing by him and even told reporter that she believed in him.

friendship:

Most probably ah Gay's own wife exposed the affair after she gathered enough evidence.
After rebuking the affair, instead of being remorseful, Gay challenged the wife.

Being childless, no need to think about TLL, TAS and all sort of enrichment programmes, his wife prepared to let go everything to bring down this man's reputation.

The saddest person is Gay's mum. Raising the son eventually fell off in the hands of women. Luckily, last time, education no need to invest so much. This guy could be top PSLE student and 9 straight A1s in O level. At that time there was no GEP or IP schools.