Are you happy you have been heard by MOE...
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to differentiate citizens and non-citizens?
http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/schoolnews/1173770/School_fees_to_increase_for_non_citizens_in_2013_MOE.html
School fees to increase for non-citizens in 2013: MOE
Edvantage | Tue Jun 26 2012
SINGAPORE - The Ministry of Education (MOE) announced today that it will be revising school fees from 2013 in government and government-aided schools for non-Singaporeans.
School fees will increase by $50-80 per month for students who are Permanent Residents (PR) and by $115-250 per month for international students (IS).
Primary PR students will be charged $90 up from $40, while IS (ASEAN) will be charged $350 up from $235. Other international students will be charged $500 up from $345.
School fees for students who are Singapore Citizens (SC) will remain unchanged. Primary school education is free for citizens.
Monthly fees for secondary PR students, IS (ASEAN) and IS will increase by $65 to $120, $125 to $450, and $180 to $650, respectively.
Fees for local students will remain at $5.
Meanwhile, pre-university PR students will be charged $160 up from $80, while IS (ASEAN) will be charged $700 up from $530. Other international students will be charged $1,000 up from $750.
School fees for local students will remain at $6.
Monthly standard miscellaneous fees will also increase for all students by $1 to $6.50 for primary school students, by $2.00 to $10.00 for secondary school students and by $2.50 to $13.50 for Pre-University school students. -
Should also include poly education.
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caroline3sg:
Should also include poly education.
Poly is considered tertiary? So I am not sure if the fees are regulated by MOE. -
It's about time! Should have implemented this years ago. :siam:
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ksi:
Yes, poly is considered tertiary. But feel that their fees should be adjusted too. Just like bus fares. I may be wrong on this (pls correct me if i am), but, don't think poly/ITE students enjoy the subsidsed bus fares as their A level counterparts. Feel that provisions shd be made especially since they are all in the same age group and category of post-secondary education.caroline3sg:
Should also include poly education.
Poly is considered tertiary? So I am not sure if the fees are regulated by MOE. -
Mawar:
It's about time! Should have implemented this years ago. :siam:
Yeah, that is why option 2 exists. Some may feel that this is long overdue. -
schweppes:
Yes, poly is considered tertiary. But feel that their fees should be adjusted too. Just like bus fares. I may be wrong on this (pls correct me if i am), but, don't think poly/ITE students enjoy the subsidsed bus fares as their A level counterparts. Feel that provisions shd be made especially since they are all in the same age group and category of post-secondary education.[/quote]I agree with you, they should enjoy the same privileges but who is in charge for fees? I think for bus fares, LTA should be the one in charge to review this right?ksi:
[quote=\"caroline3sg\"]Should also include poly education.
Poly is considered tertiary? So I am not sure if the fees are regulated by MOE.
Just a lighter note on the difference I notice, I think the poly kids are treated more like young adults, not tied down by school uniforms and stricter rules in school whereas the A levels kids are managed more like kids, maybe that is why they are given bus fare privileges? -
ksi:
I agree with you, they should enjoy the same privileges but who is in charge for fees? I think for bus fares, LTA should be the one in charge to review this right?[/quote]ya... think so. They did say that they are looking into it. As usual, NATO only. haiz :razz:
Yes, poly is considered tertiary. But feel that their fees should be adjusted too. Just like bus fares. I may be wrong on this (pls correct me if i am), but, don't think poly/ITE students enjoy the subsidsed bus fares as their A level counterparts. Feel that provisions shd be made especially since they are all in the same age group and category of post-secondary education.schweppes:
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Poly is considered tertiary? So I am not sure if the fees are regulated by MOE.ksi:
:rotflmao:Just a lighter note on the difference I notice, I think the poly kids are treated more like young adults, not tied down by school uniforms and stricter rules in school whereas the A levels kids are managed more like kids, maybe that is why they are given bus fare privileges?
actually, some of the poly kids need more discipline in their lives!! :slapshead: :nunchuk: -
schweppes:
Ah...then they can now learn from MOE....get into ACTION and stop the TALK! MOE is setting a good example.. :rahrah:
ya... think so. They did say that they are looking into it. As usual, NATO only. haiz :razz:ksi:
I agree with you, they should enjoy the same privileges but who is in charge for fees? I think for bus fares, LTA should be the one in charge to review this right?schweppes:
Yeah I see quite a number of them are smokers....
:rotflmao:ksi:
Just a lighter note on the difference I notice, I think the poly kids are treated more like young adults, not tied down by school uniforms and stricter rules in school whereas the A levels kids are managed more like kids, maybe that is why they are given bus fare privileges?
actually, some of the poly kids need more discipline in their lives!! :slapshead: :nunchuk:http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/s/smoking-emoticon.gif\">
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ksi:
Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....
to differentiate citizens and non-citizens? -
Being heard is insufficient. There should be action done.
At least, I hope teachers are genuinely teaching and not leaving that to tutors. What about installing CCTV in classrooms or having officers sitting at back of class ? I remember having minister coming to our classroom on adhoc. Once, the education minister came into the βkitchenβ while home economics class was going on. -
nansk:
No, this point is more linked to the rights of being a citizen like the P1 registration priority. Not so complicated. It seems that MOE is trying to address the difference in being a citizen and a non-citizen first as the general sentiments outside education issues are not so pleasant regarding this. They have not reached the issue on \"tuition nation\" yet..
Wait. Was this really what ksp parents were clamouring for? How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?ksi:
Are you happy you have been heard by MOE....
to differentiate citizens and non-citizens? -
janet_lee88:
There is action on this citizen and non-citizen disparity... other issues, think we have to wait patiently lor...Being heard is insufficient. There should be action done.
At least, I hope teachers are genuinely teaching and not leaving that to tutors. What about installing CCTV in classrooms or having officers sitting at back of class ? I remember having minister coming to our classroom on adhoc. Once, the education minister came into the 'kitchen' while home economics class was going on.
Regarding this CCTV thing, it will cost them too much. Having officers sitting at the back of the class is doable. In our school, if any negative feedback is given for class conduct or teacher's conduct, our VP will sit-in and do an observation class. -
We can definitely have VP sitting in as and when. But VP and teacher belong to same schoolβ¦may still side their own. It will be better to have someone from MOE. No advance notice should be given to the particular class(es) on that day. People sitting up there should be aware of what is going on on ground level.
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Wish they could give free school uniforms out and free textbooks too.
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janet_lee88:
We can definitely have VP sitting in as and when. But VP and teacher belong to same school...may still side their own. It will be better to have someone from MOE. No advance notice should be given to the particular class(es) on that day. People sitting up there should be aware of what is going on on ground level.
True, but the thing is if a VP has decided to sit in, it would have put the teacher on the toes, so it will still be a win-win-win-win for all. MOE has inspectors visit for general things in school, not so teacher-specific. I suppose if MOE has a programme like \"Grooming ace teachers to nurture star students\", then putting officers into schools regularly would appear more seamless and has a more positive vibe to assist the teachers than the undesirable fear-planting vibes. -
Oppsgal:
Wish they could give free school uniforms out and free textbooks too.
For all or for specific group of kids?
Actually for a specific group of kids, every year we donate old but good condition uniforms and similarly for textbooks to help those less fortunate kids in our school. -
Oppsgal:
Wish they could give free school uniforms out and free textbooks too.
No use free textbooks. We want free assessment books. -
nansk:
Funny... :rotflmao:Oppsgal:
Wish they could give free school uniforms out and free textbooks too.
No use free textbooks. We want free assessment books. -
ksi:
With P1 registration priority, I totally understand and agree with the changes. But with the fees, there appears to be no direct benefit to Sg children. Are you honestly feeling better/happier after reading this news? Not me.
No, this point is more linked to the rights of being a citizen like the P1 registration priority. Not so complicated. It seems that MOE is trying to address the difference in being a citizen and a non-citizen first as the general sentiments outside education issues are not so pleasant regarding this.nansk:
... How is it going to benefit Singaporean kids if their non-Sg classmates will now pay higher fees? Is there any promise that the higher fees collected will be used to bring in more teachers/teacher-training/extra coaching for exams etc.?