City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged
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cel-tang:
Of course has to do some good work lah! If not, how to convince people to part away so much of their money.I am not a christian but I find that what the media is reporting is one-sided. No mention of the good they have done. True, the good they do does not make them right but this is not a case of taking money for their personal gain but more for advancing their project to do good works. Singing maybe one way Sun took to try to do that.
Just talked to a colleague who is from another church, Cornerstone, who shared how Pastor Kong has impacted christianity in singapore. I was surprised that they have done so much but the only reports that come out are all negative. And most people take great pleasure in seeing them fall.
An interesting article I saw on facebook written by a muslim. Food for thought.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/mohammad-nizam-abdul-kadir/city-harvest-church-the-views-of-a-muslim-singaporean-remember-operation-spectru/359495054082723
This may just be a smoke screen so that they can perpetuate their hidden deeds znd true intention. -
27 June 2012, Channel News Asia
By Sara Grosse
Closer attention needs to be paid towards leadership in charities: NVPC
SINGAPORE:
In the wake of the court case involving five leaders of City Harvest Church, the National Volunteer & Philanthropy Centre said charities need to pay closer attention to their leadership.
The national body, which promotes philanthropy and volunteerism in Singapore, is confident that donors will continue to give generously to charities.
The past few years have seen several charities come under fire over the misuse of public funds. From revelations about former National Kidney Foundation chief T T Durai's pay and perks in 2005, to unauthorised loans made by Ren Ci hospital ex-CEO Ming Yi in 2007.
In November 2007, Singapore's Charity Council introduced the code of governance to ensure accountability and boost confidence in the charity sector.
In 2011, the code was fine-tuned to provide greater clarity and compliance. This included tightening the distinction of roles between board and staff members. The code also makes clear that the salaries of the three highest paid staff should be disclosed for large charities that receive S$10 million or more.
The court case involving five senior members of City Harvest Church over alleged misuse of church funds has begged the question of whether the code needs further tightening.
Laurence Lien, CEO of the National Volunteer & Philanthropy Centre, said: \"I don't think we should have a knee jerk reaction to this and just decide that we need to tighten code of governance. At the end of the day, it boils down to the leaders who are leading the organisation.
\"You can have whatever code in place. If the leaders ignore the code and do not comply, which I believe in this case happened, no code, whatever the type, is going to do the job.\"
Mr Lien said the case is a wake-up call for charities to take planned leadership succession more seriously, and added that the case should not have a long-term impact on charitable donation.
He said: \"I think lots of people who work in the charity sector still do extremely good work. Many charities still practice good governance. And donors by and large are discerning, so I'm confident they will continue to give generously to charities.\"
source
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1210296/1/.html -
Way2GO:
Interesting as it may be, the writer seems to be someone with an axe to grind with the govt. He brought up various conspiracy theories and then link it to the CHC saga, perhaps to get his REAL point across.
Just finish reading d link u posted.cel-tang:
I am not a christian but I find that what the media is reporting is one-sided. No mention of the good they have done. True, the good they do does not make them right but this is not a case of taking money for their personal gain but more for advancing their project to do good works. Singing maybe one way Sun took to try to do that.
Just talked to a colleague who is from another church, Cornerstone, who shared how Pastor Kong has impacted christianity in singapore. I was surprised that they have done so much but the only reports that come out are all negative. And most people take great pleasure in seeing them fall.
An interesting article I saw on facebook written by a muslim. Food for thought.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/mohammad-nizam-abdul-kadir/city-harvest-church-the-views-of-a-muslim-singaporean-remember-operation-spectru/359495054082723
So d rather long prologue was to introduce a conspiracy theory
- wat do u think? -
Dreamaurora:
CHC claims that no money was taken or \"lost\" and continued to defend their own people. Perhaps, they may want to explain the web of hidden transactions and monies transferred or paid to companies helmed by their own people?
Yes, the press release took me by surprise too. I thought DPM TCH already subtly hinted at them the course of actions they should take. At the very least, I think people expect that those being charged to be relinquished of their duties until the trial is over, whether they are guilty or not. Now it seems like they are going to rally the entire church against this charge and still let the affected pastors preach.Way2GO:
Just read CHC latest press release.
:slapshead:
Looks like CHC is on a collision course with d authorities
in spite of DPM TCH taking d precaution to make a public statement to separate church fr d actions of individuals involved.
If everything is done above board, why so sneaky?
They said they have reviewd their process and taken steps to ensure transparancy with their finance since the investigation started 2 years ago. Why was this only done after investigation started 2 years ago? They claimed that they had been hard done by, but don't they know that all these hanky panky have been done way before 2 years ago? -
26 June 2012
by Elizabeth Soh
Who is the woman behind beleaguered City Harvest Church founder Kong Hee, now at the centre of the most shocking probe into a religious organization in Singapore ?
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/who-is-ho-yeow-sun--20120626.html
How did alleged misconduct at CHC take place ?
Here are details of the alleged misconduct and mismanagement at the charity as stated in full by the COC on Tuesday, when Kong and other key members of the religious organisation were arrested in relation to the allegations.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/how-did-alleged-misconduct-at-chc-take-place-.html -
Lynn2010:
Huat ah! Huat ah! Huat ah!
phtthp, do they really rally \"We want prosperity, prosperity, prosperity?\" Just very curious about this -
why do people want to mix politic with a simple issue of breaching of law? Do they harbor evil intention?
If KH can be acquitted, isn’t Ming Yi over charged? The money involved is many times larger and the sophistication to falsify and cover up multiple level higher. -
Way2GO:
Sorry, I didn't finish reading the whole article - got to the part where it says going to hollywood and how using that style to appeal to the people there - it just doesn't sound right to me, though I can't explain why. I just skipped the rest of it.
Just finish reading d link u posted.cel-tang:
I am not a christian but I find that what the media is reporting is one-sided. No mention of the good they have done. True, the good they do does not make them right but this is not a case of taking money for their personal gain but more for advancing their project to do good works. Singing maybe one way Sun took to try to do that.
Just talked to a colleague who is from another church, Cornerstone, who shared how Pastor Kong has impacted christianity in singapore. I was surprised that they have done so much but the only reports that come out are all negative. And most people take great pleasure in seeing them fall.
An interesting article I saw on facebook written by a muslim. Food for thought.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/mohammad-nizam-abdul-kadir/city-harvest-church-the-views-of-a-muslim-singaporean-remember-operation-spectru/359495054082723
So d rather long prologue was to introduce a conspiracy theory
- wat do u think? -
WeiHan:
why do people want to mix politic with a simple issue of breaching of law? Do they harbor evil intention?
You've expressed my secret thoughts. This reminds me of the \"tongue-in-cheek\" article posted earlier in this thread from other sources, with the writer linking KH to the political win. Sniff, sniff. Fishy.WeiHan:
Good point, WeiHan!If KH can be acquitted, isn't Ming Yi over charged? The money involved is many times larger and the sophistication to falsify and cover up multiple level higher.
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Dreamaurora:
Well done... CHC showdown with CAD?
Yes, the press release took me by surprise too. I thought DPM TCH already subtly hinted at them the course of actions they should take. At the very least, I think people expect that those being charged to be relinquished of their duties until the trial is over, whether they are guilty or not. Now it seems like they are going to rally the entire church against this charge and still let the affected pastors preach.Way2GO:
Just read CHC latest press release.
:slapshead:
Looks like CHC is on a collision course with d authorities
in spite of DPM TCH taking d precaution to make a public statement to separate church fr d actions of individuals involved.
Getting interesting...
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